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Re: IPv6 woes - RFC


From: Jeroen Massar via NANOG <nanog () nanog org>
Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2021 22:44:47 +0200


On 20210904, at 22:26, Grant Taylor via NANOG <nanog () nanog org> wrote:

Hi,

Does anyone have any recommendation for a viable IPv6 tunnel broker / provider in the U.S.A. /other/ /than/ Hurricane 
Electric?

SixXS shut down 4 years ago, to get ISPs to move their butts... as long as there are tunnels, they do not have a 
business case.

See also https://www.sixxs.net/sunset/ and the "Call Your ISP for IPv6" thing in 2016: 
https://www.sixxs.net/wiki/Call_Your_ISP_for_IPv6 along with plans.

You people keep on giving money to ISPs that are not providing the service you want.

I reluctantly just disabled IPv6 on my home network, provided by Hurricane Electric, because multiple services my 
wife uses are objecting to H.E.'s IPv6 address space as so called VPN or proxy provider. Netflix, HBO Max, Pandora, 
and other services that I can't remember at the moment have all objected to H.E

Tunnels are VPNs

So, that makes sense that services that need to 'protect their IP' (silly property) because they did not figure out 
people might live anywhere in the world might want to pay for things and receive service... [sic]


IPv6 tunnels where meant as a transition mechanism, as a way for engineers to test IPv6 before it was wide spread.

Deploying IPv6 is easy, and due to IPv4-squeeze (unless you have slave monopoly money and can just buy 2% of the 
address space), you could have spent the last 25 years getting ready for this day. And especially in the last 5 - 10 
years, deploying IPv6 has been easy, due to all the work by many many many people around the world in testing and 
actively deploying IPv6. Of course there are still platforms that don't support DHCPv6 for instance, but things are 
easy, stable and often properly battle tested.


Disabling IPv6 feels *SO* *WRONG*!  But fighting things; hacking DNS, null routing prefixes, firewalling, etc., seems 
even more wrong.

Is there a contemporary option for home users like myself who's ISP doesn't offer native IPv6?

As this is NANOG.... and people on the list are ISPs and it is 2021, thus IPv6 being 25+ years old, the best that is 
left to do is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASXJgvy3mEg

Go Jared!

Greets,
 Jeroen


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