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Re: Fiber Network Equipment Commercial Norms


From: "Lady Benjamin Cannon of Glencoe, ASCE" <lb () 6by7 net>
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2021 12:35:55 -0700

Honestly good call and we’re looking at raising funds to do exactly that - however some of these buildings have values 
near a billion dollars each and there is more money in commercial real estate than telecom.

In my experience these things tend to crop-up with ownership of the building being a lot newer than the telco’s 
presence.   at $dayjob I’ve seen it personally - "MPOE access denied, you don’t have an agreement with the RMC”  then 
we produce an agreement (with us) that pre-dates the RMC’s agreement.  We can find the docs, but not every telco has 
every document from generations ago in some cases.

I’ve found in almost every business, there is a much greater efficiency presumed than realized.   Since I was a child 
I’ve felt that automation could fix this.

—L.B.

Ms. Lady Benjamin PD Cannon of Glencoe, ASCE
6x7 Networks & 6x7 Telecom, LLC 
CEO 
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On Sep 22, 2021, at 8:49 PM, Seth Mattinen <sethm () rollernet us> wrote:

On 9/22/21 6:12 PM, Lady Benjamin Cannon of Glencoe, ASCE wrote:
If someone were to make us remove a redundant DWDM node, we’d charge them list price to ever consider putting it 
back*, plus a deposit, plus our costs for the removal in the first place.  Bad move.  Enjoy the $8million, it could 
cost more than that to undo this mistake.
*you’d actually never ever get it back in the form you’d want. We’ll never trust the site again and won’t place 
critical infrastructure there, we’d only build back what’s needed to serve the use.



Buy the building then. Owners change and some are more friendly than others. Why would someone ever place critical 
infrastructure at a site without a solid agreement that prohibits removal, or at least making them whole financially 
so they don't have to take it out on the next person that comes along? I'd hate to be the poor customer that gets 
treated as lesser class because a previous owner caused hurt feelings.


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