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Re: if not v6, what?
From: Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuhnke () gmail com>
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2021 11:25:09 -0400
The vast majority of LTE based last mile users in developing nation environments (where maybe less than 5% of people have residential wireline broadband to their residence) are already behind a cgnat. In many places it's actually an anomaly and weird for a person to desire, or be able to afford, both a broadband internet connection at home with wired router/801.11 AP, and also the (per GB) data service for their cellphone. They choose to go with only the latter. On Sun, Sep 5, 2021 at 6:00 PM Grant Taylor via NANOG <nanog () nanog org> wrote:
On 9/5/21 3:28 PM, Michael Thomas wrote:I looked up CGN's this morning and the thing that struck me the most was losing port forwarding. It's probably a small thing to most people but losing it means to get an incoming session it always has to be mediatedby something on the outside. Yuck. So I hope that is not what the future hold, though it probably does.I think we are heading into a world where Internet is going to be bifurcated with "/on/ the Internet" (with globally routed IP address(es)) or "/access/ /to/ the Internet" (with one or more layers of CGN). I think that the vast majority of consumers would be content with the latter while a small minority will demand the former. Content hosting will almost definitely require the former. (Wiggle room is for other arrangements that can be made.) -- Grant. . . . unix || die
Current thread:
- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC, (continued)
- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC Fred Baker (Sep 11)
- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC Owen DeLong via NANOG (Sep 08)
- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC Niels Bakker (Sep 08)
- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC Owen DeLong via NANOG (Sep 08)
- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC Bjørn Mork (Sep 10)
- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC Mark Andrews (Sep 10)
- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC Owen DeLong via NANOG (Sep 19)
- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC sronan (Sep 06)
- if not v6, what? Michael Thomas (Sep 05)
- Re: if not v6, what? Grant Taylor via NANOG (Sep 05)
- Re: if not v6, what? Eric Kuhnke (Sep 07)
- Re: if not v6, what? Mark Tinka (Sep 07)
- Re: if not v6, what? Masataka Ohta (Sep 07)
- Re: if not v6, what? Niels Bakker (Sep 07)
- Re: fun with ports, was if not v6, what? John Levine (Sep 07)
- Re: if not v6, what? Masataka Ohta (Sep 07)
- Re: if not v6, what? Mark Andrews (Sep 07)
- Re: if not v6, what? Masataka Ohta (Sep 08)
- Re: if not v6, what? Owen DeLong via NANOG (Sep 08)
- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC Carsten Bormann (Sep 04)
- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC Grant Taylor via NANOG (Sep 05)