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Re: IPv6 woes - RFC
From: sronan () ronan-online com
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2021 21:16:12 -0400
Regulatory enforcement by whom? Last I knew there wasn’t a world wide Internet regulatory body.
On Sep 6, 2021, at 2:33 AM, Saku Ytti <saku () ytti fi> wrote: On Sun, 5 Sept 2021 at 19:22, Bjørn Mork <bjorn () mork no> wrote:So where does that put us in a decade or two? Which protocol is optional?If we don't get regulatory enforcement or voluntary commitments to sunset IPv4, we are doomed for dual-stack for the foreseeable future (decades). I absolutely HATE testing, developing and supporting IPv4+IPv6, more than doubling my time, adding 3rd stack would actually not increase cost that much, it's the 1=>2 which is fantastically expensive. And costs are transferred to customers. Those who have not done _anything_ with IPv6, have done the right thing from business POV, they've had lowest cost, least issues and have had other people pay for the improvements of the stack. And even today, I see no business sense deploying IPv6. Now if we'd know, all of our CDN, cloudyshops and tier1 will start dropping IPV4 at edge in 2040, this would create good business reason to start developing to IPv6, you'd know you need to have it, and you'd know you have finite window when you need to support both. And this is something we should commit to do, and everyone would benefit from the comment. -- ++ytti
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- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC, (continued)
- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC Bill Woodcock (Sep 08)
- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC John Levine (Sep 08)
- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC Owen DeLong via NANOG (Sep 08)
- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC Fred Baker (Sep 11)
- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC Owen DeLong via NANOG (Sep 08)
- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC Niels Bakker (Sep 08)
- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC Owen DeLong via NANOG (Sep 08)
- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC Bjørn Mork (Sep 10)
- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC Mark Andrews (Sep 10)
- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC Owen DeLong via NANOG (Sep 19)
- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC sronan (Sep 06)
- if not v6, what? Michael Thomas (Sep 05)
- Re: if not v6, what? Grant Taylor via NANOG (Sep 05)
- Re: if not v6, what? Eric Kuhnke (Sep 07)
- Re: if not v6, what? Mark Tinka (Sep 07)
- Re: if not v6, what? Masataka Ohta (Sep 07)
- Re: if not v6, what? Niels Bakker (Sep 07)
- Re: fun with ports, was if not v6, what? John Levine (Sep 07)
- Re: if not v6, what? Masataka Ohta (Sep 07)
- Re: if not v6, what? Mark Andrews (Sep 07)
- Re: if not v6, what? Masataka Ohta (Sep 08)