Re: private 5G networks?

[Shane Ronan <shane () ronan-online com>]

I'm sorry Anthony, but you are just plain wrong. You do not have protection
rights which means that people can infringe, but the SAS will only provide
you a channel that others haven't already been granted. This is very
different from protection rights which are guaranteed to higher class
users. If this were the case, there would be no need for a SAS registration
in the GAA space as it would be a free for all.

And because it is still considered licensed spectrum, using it without
being properly granted a channel is illegal, unlike unlicensed wifi.



On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 5:31 PM Anthony <will.anthony () gmail com> wrote:

> Opps,
>
> Replied direct this is a bit one sided of the conversation but I want to
> make certain the community is clear on this as CBRS is a valuable spectrum.
>
> Unfortunately Shane this is incorrect.   GAA is not significantly
> different then any unlicensed spectrum as to interference avoidance.  But
> the SAS will typically have tools that will give you some info on how to
> avoid channels already in use.  This is truly useful.
>
> As a CBRS GAA user, i can understand your confusion,  When a SAS (Spectrum
> Access System) states a channel is "free" that just means it is not
> currently in use by a higher priority user such as an incumbent or PAL
> user.  Any GAA can request a channel in use in the area by another GAA.
> You have no interference protection rights as a GAA / 3rd tier user.  Again
> the SAS can and should assist you with finding a clean channel and potently
> working as a mediator between GAA users but there is no guarantee or
> protections.
>
> This might be helpful.  @10:10 this video from google SAS's tech team
> talks about this very thing.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJ5pUE68ndE
>
> On 11/30/2021 2:53 PM, Shane Ronan wrote:
>
> What makes it different is once you've been allocated spectrum, which for
> in-building use is almost guaranteed, no one else can use that spectrum, so
> it's guaranteed. Unlike Wifi, where any device can transmit in those
> frequencies.
>
> Shane
>
> On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 3:45 PM Michael Thomas <mike () mtcc com> wrote:
>
> > On 11/30/21 12:43 PM, Shane Ronan wrote:
> >
> > What do you mean 3rd Tier?
> >
> > General Authorized Access? Taken from some random site looking it up.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 2:47 PM Michael Thomas <mike () mtcc com> wrote:
> >
> > > On 11/30/21 11:38 AM, Shane Ronan wrote:
> > >
> > > The spectrum is CBRS and there are MANY benefits to 5G over Wifi,
> > > including but not limited to guaranteed spectrum.
> > >
> > > For the 3rd tier I assume that works pretty much like wifi spectrum,
> > > right? It seems to be at about 3.5Ghz so that would be pretty short
> > > distance. Other than handoff what other advantages does it have over wifi
> > > (can wifi do seamless l2 handoff these days?)
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 2:29 PM Michael Thomas <mike () mtcc com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > https://aws.amazon.com/about-aws/whats-new/2021/11/preview-aws-private-5g/
> > > >
> > > > Why would somebody want this over wifi? And what spectrum are they
> > > > using? They can't just camp on allocated spectrum, right?
> > > >
> > > > Mike