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Re: MPLS/MEF Switches and NIDs


From: Colton Conor <colton.conor () gmail com>
Date: Mon, 31 May 2021 15:06:45 -0500

Patrick,

Yes, I would say that was quite some time ago. From my most recent quotes
from Ciena, they have version 6, version 8, and version 10 products now. I
wonder if they have improved (I would hope) over the years.

On Sun, May 30, 2021 at 10:12 PM Patrick Cole <z () amused net> wrote:

Colton,

This was 6+ years ago, SAOS 6.14, so I don't know it might be better now.

We changed to Cisco ASR920 and it was a night and day difference - we now
have
90ish ASR920s in production but are migrating toward the NCS540X.

Patrick

Sat, May 29, 2021 at 10:13:13AM -0500, Colton Conor wrote:


   Patrick,
   How long ago was this, and what code were they running?
   What do you recommend for aggregation then?
   On Fri, May 28, 2021 at 9:17 PM Patrick Cole <z () amused net> wrote:

     We ran a medium sized mpls network using ciena 3900 and 5000 series
     boxes on our microwave network.
     Nothing but problems, the mpls code was just not mature enough and
our
     radio network had the boxes falling apart at the seams as storms
rolled
     through.  At that time they didn't support FRR or proper CSPF so
     everything had to be manually engineered active standby LSPs. Not
sure
     if things have changed now. These boxes have Nortel vintage and they
     seemed best delloyed using PBB TE as it was mature.
     As an NID though they are not a bad option but not in core or
     aggregation IMHO.

     On 29 May 2021 08:49:51 Colton Conor <colton.conor () gmail com>
wrote:

       Yes, I was surprised as you that they have these routing
features. I
       was also surprised they had multiple boxes that compete with
       aggregation devices like the ACX5048. The question is how good is
       Ciena's MPLS, switching, and routing stack compared to the
established
       players of Juniper, Cisco, and Nokia? Ciena is no small company,
so I
       think they would have the resources to make it happen.
       On Fri, May 28, 2021 at 12:32 PM <aaron1 () gvtc com> wrote:

         Wow, ciena has the means to implement SR and MPLS services?  I
mean
         they run the underlying LS IGP to signal those SIDâ**s ??  I
         didnâ**t know that.  I may look at them in the future then.  I
         thought Ciena just did some sort of static mpls-tp or
somethingâ*¦



         We use Accedian as NIDâ**s with SkyLight director for PAA (SLA
         stuff)â*¦and uplink those into our network at (yester-year,
Cisco
         ME3600â**s and ASR9000â**s), but now, ACX5048 and MX204



         -Aaron



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