Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections

[Baldur Norddahl <baldur.norddahl () gmail com>]

In 2021 I would claim that 100 Mbps is where "good" internet starts. Yes,
25 Mbps will work but it is not good internet. Not to mention 2 Mbps ADSL
which is almost the same as no internet.

Now there are needs for an individual and there are needs for a community.
The rural communities have a genuine need for good internet. Anything less
will continue to accelerate the move of people to the cities. In the end,
each individual decides for himself what his needs are and sufficient
people want good internet, so that they will have that as part of their
considerations when deciding to move.

With poor internet the community will accumulate people that dont care
about the internet, which often means elderly people. More elderly people
means younger people do not feel at home, so they will move away or not
move there, which further accelerates the effect.

Regards,

Baldur


On Sat, May 29, 2021 at 11:19 PM Andy Ringsmuth <andy () andyring com> wrote:

> Well, honestly, if you really want to go down the “need vs. want” road,
> 100 percent of the folks on this list would be out of a job.
>
> What are genuine needs? Food/water, clothing and shelter. That’s it. Even
> the last two are somewhat negotiable if you get right down to it.
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> > On May 29, 2021, at 7:48 AM, Mike Hammett <nanog () ics-il net> wrote:
> >
> > Need vs. want.
> >
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> > From: "Baldur Norddahl" <baldur.norddahl () gmail com>
> > To: "NANOG" <nanog () nanog org>
> > Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2021 3:49:01 AM
> > Subject: Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections
> >
> > I am in Europe / Denmark. The EU has defined broadband to be 100 Mbps
> download with nothing specified for upload. The goal is for everyone to
> have access to broadband by 2025.
> > Such definitions do help those in rural areas. In fact this is precisely
> useful for those that do not currently have access. It helps to make goals
> and to measure how we are progressing.
> > All current technologies can deliver broadband, including DSL, coax, 5G
> and fixed wireless. But maybe not without investment. That DSL plant might
> need upgrading to the latest VDSL and cabinets closer to the customer. The
> coax might need upgrades etc. But that is the point. Providers will need to
> invest to be able to claim broadband.
> > On the other hand a soft easy broadband definition is useless in my
> opinion. Then everyone has broadband, hurray, but many have slow internet
> and nothing is going to be done because it is broadband!
> > Regards
> >
> > Baldur