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Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections


From: Mike Lyon <mike.lyon () gmail com>
Date: Thu, 27 May 2021 18:14:59 -0700

I get about 23/6 Mbps for $50/month here in Silicon Valley from my ATT DSL line.

On May 27, 2021, at 18:11, Matt Brennan <brennanma () gmail com> wrote:


I'd love to see 100/100, but I don't see it happening anytime soon ... especially for $50. 

I pay $150/month for 300/8 at home and that's the best upload I can get where I live ... in a major city. 

On Thu, May 27, 2021 at 8:41 PM Eric Dugas via NANOG <nanog () nanog org> wrote:
I'm not in the US but in Canada it's been 50/10 since 2016 and we're just "almost" there yet. IMO the target should 
have been more like 100/30 or even 50 of upload.

100/100 might be a bit short sighted considering it'll take years to accomplish the necessary last-mile/distribution 
upgrades in rural areas.

On Thu, May 27, 2021 at 8:31 PM Sean Donelan <sean () donelan com> wrote:

What should be the new minimum speed for "broadband" in the U.S.?


This is the list of past minimum broadband speed definitions by year

year  speed

1999  200 kbps in both directions (this was chosen as faster than 
dialup/ISDN speeds)

2000  200 kbps in at least one direction (changed because too many service 
providers had 128 kbps upload)

2010   4 mbps down / 1 mbps up

2015   25 Mbps down / 3 Mbps up (wired)
         5 Mbps down / 1 Mbps up (wireless)

2021   ??? / ??? (some Senators propose 100/100 mbps)

Not only in major cities, but also rural areas

Note, the official broadband definition only means service providers can't 
advertise it as "broadband" or qualify for subsidies; not that they must 
deliver better service.


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