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Re: Google IP Geolocation


From: Honghao Zeng via NANOG <nanog () nanog org>
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2021 15:17:52 -0400

it feels like google implemented some sort of new system recently; we have seen 4, 5 providers complaining their IPs 
being redirect to google Hong Kong just over the last few days.

two of our /23s also have the same symptoms; all clients being redirected to google Hong Kong, plus the 
permanently-enabled safe search. youtube premium also doesn't work. access request to the isp portal also goes nowhere.

On Mar 29, 2021, at 2:55 PM, Michael K. Spears <michael () spears io> wrote:

Yep, that's what I finally got. This is a pretty major issue for me and also shows a massive failing on Google..

I'm a VPS hosting provider, and despite no change in geolocation from any other vendor, no changes in the whois on 
either my ASN or my IP subnets, google is now redirecting to Google Hong Kong (likely due to Asian clients using VPNs 
from their phones).. This is incredibly annoying and clients shouldn't be able to change geolocation on an entire /24 
that easily.

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From: Josh Luthman <josh () imaginenetworksllc com>
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 2:52:48 PM
To: Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists () gmail com>
Cc: Michael K. Spears <michael () spears io>; nanog () nanog org <nanog () nanog org>
Subject: Re: Google IP Geolocation
 
https://isp.google.com <https://isp.google.com/>

I signed up for an account there and they said:

"Currently, the Google ISP portal is designed for our partners of GGC, PNI or IX programs.
 
The access to portal is granted on request only to our partners." 

Josh Luthman
24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Mon, Mar 29, 2021 at 2:08 PM Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists () gmail com <mailto:morrowc.lists () gmail com>> 
wrote:


On Mon, Mar 29, 2021 at 1:59 PM Josh Luthman <josh () imaginenetworksllc com <mailto:josh () imaginenetworksllc com>> 
wrote:
Google ISP specifically told me they didn't want to do deal with geolocation on the ISP portal.


unsure who 'google isp' is here, but ... I think if you point at a properly formed geo-location data file it'll get 
eaten and produce proper results for you.
you do have to add that in your isp portal:
   tri-pipe-thingy -> configuration -> IP geolocation
and /register feed/ button on that page.
 
Josh Luthman
24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Sat, Mar 27, 2021 at 3:28 PM Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists () gmail com <mailto:morrowc.lists () gmail com>> 
wrote:
As a note, on the ISP portal there's a place to put a link to your RFC8805 format geolocation feed...
these are scraped out 'regularly' and help keep things oriented better for folks.

the ietf noc folk use this method to tell google (and other folk who scrape out our data) where meetings are before 
the meetings get there:
  https://noc.ietf.org/geo/google.csv <https://noc.ietf.org/geo/google.csv>

-chris
volunteer noc persona

On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 6:43 PM Michael K. Spears <michael () spears io <mailto:michael () spears io>> wrote:
Awesome, I think I’ve figured out the Google ISP portal signup, but it definitely seems semi-complicated in a way, 
notably finding the link…

 

Thank you,

Michael K. Spears

727.656.3347

 

From: Mike Hammett <nanog () ics-il net <mailto:nanog () ics-il net>> 
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2021 6:30 PM
To: Michael K. Spears <michael () spears io <mailto:michael () spears io>>
Cc: nanog () nanog org <mailto:nanog () nanog org>
Subject: Re: Google IP Geolocation

 

We're working on a video to show people how to sign up for the ISP portal and get to that part of the portal once 
signed up. We'll drop a link to it near the Google section of our geolocation page.



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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com <http://www.ics-il.com/>

Midwest-IX
http://www.midwest-ix.com <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
 

From: "Michael K. Spears" <michael () spears io <mailto:michael () spears io>>
To: nanog () nanog org <mailto:nanog () nanog org>
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2021 5:10:23 PM
Subject: Google IP Geolocation

Anyone have a good contact at Google who can help with IP geolocation? I have a /24 where anything related to Google 
is in the wrong language.

 

Thank you,

Michael K. Spears

 



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