Re: Google IP Geolocation

[Josh Luthman <josh () imaginenetworksllc com>]

I am *NOT* complaining about my IPs currently being geo located wrong
today/recently.

I'm just trying to work with Google for our newer coming IPs in the future
in the event that it does have problems.  Until recently, all of our IPs
were new from ARIN and that's not something that will be the case for
future expansion.  Someone from Google did message me offlist to take a
look at it and possibly get me an account to work with them for these
issues.

I feel sorry for those that are currently having issues.  Hopefully you can
get it fixed one way or another sooner rather than later.

Josh Luthman
24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Mon, Mar 29, 2021 at 3:17 PM Honghao Zeng <nat () nat moe> wrote:

> it feels like google implemented some sort of new system recently; we have
> seen 4, 5 providers complaining their IPs being redirect to google Hong
> Kong just over the last few days.
>
> two of our /23s also have the same symptoms; all clients being redirected
> to google Hong Kong, plus the permanently-enabled safe search. youtube
> premium also doesn't work. access request to the isp portal also goes
> nowhere.
>
> On Mar 29, 2021, at 2:55 PM, Michael K. Spears <michael () spears io> wrote:
>
> Yep, that's what I finally got. This is a pretty major issue for me and
> also shows a massive failing on Google..
>
> I'm a VPS hosting provider, and despite no change in geolocation from any
> other vendor, no changes in the whois on either my ASN or my IP subnets,
> google is now redirecting to Google Hong Kong (likely due to Asian clients
> using VPNs from their phones).. This is incredibly annoying and clients
> shouldn't be able to change geolocation on an entire /24 that easily.
>
> Get Outlook for Android <https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg>
>
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> *From:* Josh Luthman <josh () imaginenetworksllc com>
> *Sent:* Monday, March 29, 2021 2:52:48 PM
> *To:* Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists () gmail com>
> *Cc:* Michael K. Spears <michael () spears io>; nanog () nanog org <
> nanog () nanog org>
> *Subject:* Re: Google IP Geolocation
>
> https://isp.google.com
>
> I signed up for an account there and they said:
>
> "Currently, the Google ISP portal is designed for our partners of GGC, PNI
> or IX programs.
>
> The access to portal is granted on request only to our partners."
>
> Josh Luthman
> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 29, 2021 at 2:08 PM Christopher Morrow <
> morrowc.lists () gmail com> wrote:
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 29, 2021 at 1:59 PM Josh Luthman <josh () imaginenetworksllc com>
> wrote:
>
> Google ISP specifically told me they didn't want to do deal with
> geolocation on the ISP portal.
>
>
> unsure who 'google isp' is here, but ... I think if you point at a
> properly formed geo-location data file it'll get eaten and produce proper
> results for you.
> you do have to add that in your isp portal:
>    tri-pipe-thingy -> configuration -> IP geolocation
> and /register feed/ button on that page.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 27, 2021 at 3:28 PM Christopher Morrow <
> morrowc.lists () gmail com> wrote:
>
> As a note, on the ISP portal there's a place to put a link to your RFC8805
> format geolocation feed...
> these are scraped out 'regularly' and help keep things oriented better for
> folks.
>
> the ietf noc folk use this method to tell google (and other folk who
> scrape out our data) where meetings are before the meetings get there:
>   https://noc.ietf.org/geo/google.csv
>
> -chris
> volunteer noc persona
>
> On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 6:43 PM Michael K. Spears <michael () spears io>
> wrote:
>
> Awesome, I think I’ve figured out the Google ISP portal signup, but it
> definitely seems semi-complicated in a way, notably finding the link…
>
>
>
> Thank you,
>
> Michael K. Spears
>
> 727.656.3347
>
>
>
> *From:* Mike Hammett <nanog () ics-il net>
> *Sent:* Friday, March 26, 2021 6:30 PM
> *To:* Michael K. Spears <michael () spears io>
> *Cc:* nanog () nanog org
> *Subject:* Re: Google IP Geolocation
>
>
>
> We're working on a video to show people how to sign up for the ISP portal
> and get to that part of the portal once signed up. We'll drop a link to it
> near the Google section of our geolocation page.
>
>
>
> -----
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
> Midwest-IX
> http://www.midwest-ix.com
>
>
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>
> *From: *"Michael K. Spears" <michael () spears io>
> *To: *nanog () nanog org
> *Sent: *Friday, March 26, 2021 5:10:23 PM
> *Subject: *Google IP Geolocation
>
> Anyone have a good contact at Google who can help with IP geolocation? I
> have a /24 where anything related to Google is in the wrong language.
>
>
>
> Thank you,
>
> Michael K. Spears