Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections

[Lady Benjamin Cannon of Glencoe <lb () 6by7 net>]

Exactly <3

I’m not building today’s network… why would you build todays’ network?  It’s obsolete in 24 hours.

I’m building a network to out-last me…

Are other people not doing this?  The speed test in my signature is a residential connection, it’s real.  I can do 
7gigs to a laptop now.  It’s astonishing.  AR environments and heck, video games are already there…. 

How can it be that so many fine minds don’t see this?   Does this create more opportunity for me, or just make my job 
of connecting the world; harder?

Happy Tuesday all.

-LB

Ms. Lady Benjamin PD Cannon of Glencoe, ASCE
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> On May 31, 2021, at 4:47 AM, Christian de Larrinaga <cdel () firsthand net> wrote:
>
> Nobody needs more than 64k of RAM. 
> On Sun 30 May 2021 at 14:28, Mike Hammett <nanog () ics-il net <mailto:nanog () ics-il net>> wrote:
>
>
> > That doesn't really serve any value and 99.9999999999% of people would not pay
> > any more than $50 for the ability, so your ability to execute such a system is
> > limited.
> >
> >
> >
> > -----
> > Mike Hammett
> > Intelligent Computing Solutions
> > http://www.ics-il.com
> >
> > Midwest-IX
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> > From: "Lady Benjamin Cannon of Glencoe" <lb () 6by7 net>
> > To: "Laura Smith" <n5d9xq3ti233xiyif2vp () protonmail ch>
> > Cc: "NANOG Operators' Group" <nanog () nanog org>
> > Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2021 4:43:50 PM
> > Subject: Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections
> >
> > I’m right there with you.  I can download an entire Mac OS update in 6 minutes.
> > It’s astonishing.  I’d pay a grand a month for this.  I’d pay  five.
> >
> > -LB
> >
> > Ms. Lady Benjamin PD Cannon of Glencoe, ASCE
> > 6x7 Networks & 6x7 Telecom, LLC CEO ben () 6by7 net
> > "The only fully end-to-end encrypted global telecommunications company in the
> > world.”
> > ANNOUNCING: 6x7 GLOBAL MARITIME
> >
> > FCC License KJ6FJJ
> >
> >
> > [cid][cid]
> >
> >
> >    On May 29, 2021, at 1:57 AM, Laura Smith via NANOG     <nanog () nanog org> wrote:
> >
> >    I agree with Dan.
> >
> >    In Switzerland you can get 10Gb symmetric to the home for     49.95 per month
> >    (or 39.95 if you have a mobile with the same ISP) .
> >
> >    As with Dan, average utilisation is measured in Mb. 
> >    But then the ability to go from that to download 10GB of the     latest patches
> >    from Microsoft or Apple, or the ability to upload large     files for off-site
> >    backups or for friends/customers .... I don't know what I'd     do without it !
> >       
> >    And of course, the days of the buffering wheel of death when     streaming 4K
> >    TV is long gone ...  I can have multiple people in multiple     rooms in my
> >    house streaming 4K and nobody notices.
> >
> >    I would never, ever, go back to DSL.  Even if they hiked the     price 5x, I'd
> >    still pay it.
> >
> >    Coming back to the original question on this thread, my     answer would be the
> >    minimum for 2021 should be 1/1.  Anything less than that is     a bit silly and
> >    will soon be obsolete.
> >
> >    ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
> >    On Saturday, 29 May 2021 04:50, Dan Stralka     <mrsyeltzin () gmail com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >        But it is reality, it's just not your reality, Mike.         Brandon's ISP
> >        can provide that service.
> >
> >        So should there be a more granular definition of speeds         mandated based
> >        on population density, last mile tech, etc?
> >
> >        I was in the camp that you didn't need higher bandwidth         than you'd
> >        normally find - I was happy on my 50/10 plan. Then my         ISP upgraded me
> >        to a 300/50 or thereabouts and it was a night and day         difference in
> >        getting things done. 
> >        Just like your example of average utilization being in         the single
> >        megabits per second, my average utilization is near         zero. But when I
> >        need to move files I can burst to speeds that aren't         embarrassing in
> >        2021.
> >
> >        Higher bandwidth is both welcome and necessary. It         doesn't have to be
> >        sustained throughout the contract to be required. The         only question is
> >        how feasible it is, and I suspect it's quite feasible         for larger
> >        players. 
> >        Dan
> >
> >        (end)
> >
> >        On Fri, May 28, 2021, 22:33 Mike Hammett         <nanog () ics-il net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >            That's not based in any kind of reality.
> >
> >            -----
> >            Mike Hammett
> >            Intelligent Computing Solutions
> >            http://www.ics-il.com
> >
> >            Midwest-IX
> >            http://www.midwest-ix.com
> >
> >            From: "Brandon Price" <PriceB () SherwoodOregon gov>
> >            To: "Sean Donelan" <sean () donelan com>, "NANOG             Operators' Group"
> >            <nanog () nanog org>
> >            Sent: Friday, May 28, 2021 5:21:53 PM
> >            Subject: RE: New minimum speed for US broadband             connections
> >
> >            100/100 minimum for sure.
> >
> >            In our small neck of the woods, we are currently             doing 250/250 for
> >            $45 and 1000/1000 for $60 no data caps.
> >
> >            We have lost some grants on rural builds because             "someone" in the
> >            census block claims they provide broadband.. Not             hard to put an AP
> >            up on a tower and hit the current definition's             upload speed.
> >
> >            I get a chuckle when the providers tell the customer             what they
> >            "need"...  
> >            Brandon Price
> >            Senior Network Engineer
> >            City of Sherwood, Sherwood Broadband
> >
> >            -----Original Message-----
> >            From: NANOG             <nanog-bounces+priceb=sherwoodoregon.gov () nanog org>             On
> >            Behalf Of Sean Donelan
> >            Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2021 5:33 PM
> >            To: NANOG Operators' Group <nanog () nanog org>
> >            Subject: Re: New minimum speed for US broadband             connections
> >
> >            CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the             organization. Do
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> >
> >            On Thu, 27 May 2021, Lady Benjamin Cannon of             Glencoe, ASCE wrote:
> >
> >                At least 100/100.
> >
> >                We don’t like selling slower than 10g anymore,                 that’s what I’d
> >                start everyone at if I could.
> >
> >
> >            At $50/month or less?
> >
> >            Maximize number of households of all demographic             groups.
>
>
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