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Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections


From: "Forrest Christian (List Account)" <lists () packetflux com>
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2021 06:03:57 -0600

Having dealt with this personally, I can guarantee that CAF/RDOF require
phone service to be provided as an option (and no, pointing a customer
toward a third-party voip service doesn't count) to both have an area
counted as "served" (so that you're not overbuilt) and providing phone
service is a condition of these programs.

At this point I'll point out the ridiculousness of the FCC pushing network
neutrality at the exact same time as forcing companies who take these
grants to compete potentially unfairly with internet-based voip providers.

My understanding of the reason is that CAF/RDOF are actually *telephone*
programs which have been extended to do internet.   It's more telephone
w/internet added on than internet w/telephone added on from a policy
standpoint.

On Wed, Jun 2, 2021 at 3:31 PM heasley <heas () shrubbery net> wrote:

Wed, Jun 02, 2021 at 03:25:01PM -0400, Josh Luthman:
CAF/RDOF *requires phone service*.  The internet was a happy byproduct.

the way that i interpret it, it does not require phone service but does
still offer grants for phone service.

anyway, that is irrelevant.  the point is that grants are offered for
internet services infrastructure (and they are poorly managed).



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- Forrest

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