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Re: Muni broadband sucks (was: New minimum speed for US broadband connections)


From: Andy Ringsmuth <andy () andyring com>
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2021 11:44:55 -0500

On Mon, May 31, 2021 Mike Hammett wrote:
Muni broadband does suck, but that's another thread for another day.
 Excluding cases where muni broadband doesn't suck, why does muni broadband suck?

 Personally I wouldn't mind more access to dark fiber à la Stokab, much like the dry copper pairs of yesterday.

 If the default state of muni broadband of is suck, what is the root cause? Is it a people problem and/or can 
something be done to improve on the default state?


Muni broadband sucks for several reasons but the most important one is:

Competition. Municipal broadband eliminates it. If it's not obvious
why, feel free to Google how competition and monopolization impact
product quality. It's a pretty universal trait.


If you were to structure muni broadband to enhance competition rather
than limit it, you might get a different result. For example, if
municipalities installed and leased fiber optic cables to every
structure but didn't provide any services on those cables, relying
instead on third parties directly billing the customer to do so, it
could work out as well as having municipalities pay for roads and
letting people buy their own cars and trucks to use on them.

In many municipalities, you can choose your electricity provider. And yet there are not multiple companies running 
power lines to every house.

It is easy to make the argument “muni broadband sucks because no competition” but it is much more difficult to back it 
up with hard data.

Take a look at Nebraska for instance. Here, by law, electricity is a public utility. And yet we have some of the lowest 
rates and highest uptime in the country. No competition, low prices, stellar service record.

I’m generally all for private enterprise. But when those private enterprises take public money, don’t do what they are 
supposed to do with it, squander it, and nothing changes, again and again, well, what’s that definition of insanity?


Here in Lincoln, Nebraska, we actually do have fiber available at every address in the city. And a private company did 
it. 100 percent underground, all 96 square miles of the city. They did it all in about two years. I can get 50Mbps 
synchronous for $45, 500 for $70 or gig for $99. TV and phone also if I want it. Local support too, not India. 

They now have fiber in 15 Nebraska cities and two in Colorado and are expanding rapidly. Why? A great product at a 
great price with outstanding customer service. Spectrum is losing customers like crazy as a result, and precisely zero 
people are shedding any tears (Spectrum salesmen excepted).

It can be done. Is it an investment? Yes. Just like anything else. Some investments have a quicker return on capital 
than others.



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