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Re: NDAA passed: Internet and Online Streaming Services Emergency Alert Study


From: Tom Beecher <beecher () beecher cc>
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2021 11:30:14 -0500


Most civilized societies immensely value a great many things, and for
exactly zero of them is it acceptable for the government to kick down my
door, wake me up, and scrawl a message on my wall to make sure I hear
about it.  Just because digital tools can save the government millions
of man-hours because they no longer have to go house-to-house doesn't
justify the theft and use of my personal property against my wishes.


Government Alerts on both IOS and Android are enabled by default, but the
operating systems provide very simple toggles to disable them if you so
choose.

I'm also curious if you consider any unwanted notification or pop up on
your devices as 'theft', because it's not.

On Mon, Jan 4, 2021 at 4:17 AM Peter Kristolaitis <alter3d () alter3d ca>
wrote:

Most civilized societies immensely value a great many things, and for
exactly zero of them is it acceptable for the government to kick down my
door, wake me up, and scrawl a message on my wall to make sure I hear
about it.  Just because digital tools can save the government millions
of man-hours because they no longer have to go house-to-house doesn't
justify the theft and use of my personal property against my wishes.


On 2021-01-04 3:56 a.m., Krassimir Tzvetanov wrote:
Also a PSA: Amber alerts, Emergency alerts, and Public Safety alerts
all go over cell broadcast. Think of it as a broadcast message on a
LAN where the LAN is the local mobile phone cell. The reason you get
that message 600 miles away for an amber alert is because in most
civilized societies children's lives are immensely valued. And a 5-6
hour driving distance is not much knowing the lifecycle of reporting
of such things and activation of the system, and also the time it
takes for some of those kidnappings to be discovered before it can
even be reported.


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