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Re: NDAA passed: Internet and Online Streaming Services Emergency Alert Study


From: Mike Hammett <nanog () ics-il net>
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2021 10:16:30 -0600 (CST)

*facepalm* 


No one cares about old hardware when solving a modern problem. 





Existing IP <-> geolocation methods, assuming they are up to date and have easy maintenance, are good enough. I know 
that assumption isn't always able to be made, but that's a separate conversation. 




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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 

----- Original Message -----

From: "Masataka Ohta" <mohta () necom830 hpcl titech ac jp> 
To: "Mike Hammett" <nanog () ics-il net> 
Cc: nanog () nanog org 
Sent: Monday, January 4, 2021 9:50:11 AM 
Subject: Re: NDAA passed: Internet and Online Streaming Services Emergency Alert Study 

Mike Hammett wrote: 

Every device that would be capable of doing anything also has an OS. 

Old computers had hardware (manually manipulated switches and 
light bulbs to read/write specific memory locations) to install boot 
strap loader to download OS without any OS. 

The only involvement ISPs should have is ensuring that they have 
proper IP <-> geolocation information 

Though IP layer has notion of location w.r.t. network topology, 
it is not geolocation, which is why there is no precise geolocation 
services to be relied by essential services such as emergency 
alert. 

Masataka Ohta 


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