Re: WhatsApp's New Policy Has...

[Richard Porter <richard () pedantictheory com>]

Thanks Dave,
I missed that... *he says as he deletes Keybase*

On Fri, Jan 8, 2021 at 1:36 PM Dave Phelps <tippenring () gmail com> wrote:

> Keybase was purchased by Zoom (
> https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/07/zoom-buys-keybase-in-first-deal-as-part-of-plan-to-fix-security.html).
> From what I've gathered, Zoom is too tight with, owned by, or run by China,
> so I believe there was a similar mass exodus from Keybase for lack of trust.
>
> On Fri, Jan 8, 2021 at 1:17 PM Richard Porter <richard () pedantictheory com>
> wrote:
>
> > Has anyone considered or used Keybase?
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 8, 2021 at 1:14 PM Mark Tinka <mark.tinka () seacom com> wrote:
> >
> > > On 1/8/21 19:26, Drew Weaver wrote:
> > >
> > > > This might be anecdotal but there is a ton of debate about whether or
> > > not Telegram is encrypted.
> > > > This is not anecdotal though, on Wednesday night I saw an interview
> > > with a security expert on CNBC and he indicated that they knew that the
> > > riots in DC were going to happen because they had been "monitoring the
> > > extremists Telegram groups". What they didn't say was whether or not they
> > > were simply members of those groups, or monitoring from a
> > > "networking/technology" sense. I'm not sure if Signal does groups the same
> > > way that Telegram does but that one is widely believed to be much better
> > > than Telegram as far as privacy and security.
> > > > Telegram is a tremendously useful (and free service) for connecting to
> > > Elastalert for all manner of notifications, but we have since moved to
> > > Teams for that just because we can't really be sure what is going on under
> > > the hood with Telegram.
> > > > Just some things that I have observed, not trying to start a holy war.
> > >
> > > My rudimentary understanding of Telegram is that group messages are
> > > client-server, which is why new members can read old posts when they
> > > join a group.
> > >
> > > Signal, on the other hand, is p2p for members within the group. No
> > > messages are ever sent to their cloud.
> > >
> > > Mark.