RE: WhatsApp's New Policy Has...

[Drew Weaver <drew.weaver () thenap com>]

This might be anecdotal but there is a ton of debate about whether or not Telegram is encrypted. 

This is not anecdotal though, on Wednesday night I saw an interview with a security expert on CNBC and he indicated 
that they knew that the riots in DC were going to happen because they had been "monitoring the extremists Telegram 
groups". What they didn't say was whether or not they were simply members of those groups, or monitoring from a 
"networking/technology" sense. I'm not sure if Signal does groups the same way that Telegram does but that one is 
widely believed to be much better than Telegram as far as privacy and security. 

Telegram is a tremendously useful (and free service) for connecting to Elastalert for all manner of notifications, but 
we have since moved to Teams for that just because we can't really be sure what is going on under the hood with 
Telegram.

Just some things that I have observed, not trying to start a holy war.



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From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+drew.weaver=thenap.com () nanog org> On Behalf Of Ge DUPIN
Sent: Friday, January 8, 2021 12:00 PM
To: Andy Ringsmuth <andy () andyring com>
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Subject: Re: WhatsApp's New Policy Has...

There is also Telegram, which is quite good 🙂

Ge Dupin

> Le 8 janv. 2021 à 17:56, Andy Ringsmuth <andy () andyring com> a écrit :
>
> Same boat here. I don’t even have a FB account but I am in a handful of WhatsApp groups. Most are family related but 
> one is a tight-knit men’s group at church where privacy is important. The “hey men, I’m struggling with <insert 
> really difficult topic here> and I need support” type group.
>
> We’re ditching WhatsApp likely for Signal as well. I trust satan himself more than I trust Zuckerburg.
>
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> “Better even die free, than to live slaves.” - Frederick Douglas, 1863
>
> > On Jan 8, 2021, at 10:00 AM, Mark Tinka <mark.tinka () seacom com> wrote:
> >
> > ... finally been the final push all my friends needed to dump it and move to Signal.
> >
> > Several of the WhatsApp groups I'm on have, as of this morning, been disbanded and re-launched on Signal.
> >
> > Facebook say the new policy applies to business accounts, but heck, the cat's out the bag and gone.
> >
> > What's most amazing to me is that a lot more people seem to be a tad more concerned about their privacy, when they 
> > ordinarily wouldn't have.
> >
> > Mark.