Re: Suspicious IP reporting

[Joe <jbfixurpc () gmail com>]

Much like your banning of an email address is an ability you have with your
provider (gmail), you should have the same abilities with your cellular
provider for an IP address.
I would think (at a minimum) you would be able to negotiate such an action
with them, perhaps it is time to re-negotiate that contract?
If your simply trying to report an offending IP for brute force stuff
perhaps the tact you may find more helpful is to ask for a contact at xzy
ISP on list, versus asking folks to do reporting for you. As well there are
like 100s of lists to report this to outside of NANOG
As well, if I am reading this correctly, deployment of devices that have
public facing IPs and do not have a means to protect themselves is
concerning to say the least.
This is about as reckless as putting up a login page without a password and
crying foul when something gains access that you didn't expect. Again, I do
not know all of the details of this so I may be way off base with that
respect.

If your ability to prevent issues is due to lack of a firewall/control to
your network, possibly asking for help in mitigating such threats would be
better, as there are a lot of very well versed/clever folks that help out.
Regards,
-Joe


On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 7:17 PM JoeSox <joesox () gmail com> wrote:

> Ryan,
> Thanks but like I said these devices are in moving vehicles ok?
> I stated we have a plan but it is ways out.
> FACT: we have a known malicious C&C
> FACT: We know what networks it is hitting and the cellular network is the
> most vulnerable, imo.
> FACT: this IP is against Verizon terms of service so the way to address it
> is to report it to them as they request.
>
> I honestly got what I needed from this thread, thanks. And I thank the
> nonbullies that helped me off list.
> --
> Thank You,
> Joe
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 5:11 PM Ryan Hamel <administrator () rkhtech org>
> wrote:
>
> > Joe,
> >
> >
> >
> > It isn’t on Verizon to setup a firewall, especially if you have a direct
> > public IP service. The device being attached directly to the Internet (no
> > matter the transmission medium), must be able to protect itself. ISPs
> > provide routers which function as a NAT/Firewall appliance, to provide a
> > means of safety and convenience for them, but also charge you a rental fee.
> >
> >
> >
> > Stick a Cradlepoint router or something in front of your device, if you
> > want an external means of protection. Otherwise you’ll need to enable the
> > Windows Firewall if it’s a Windows system, or setup iptables on Linux,
> > ipfw/pf on *BSD, etc.
> >
> >
> >
> > Ryan
> >
> >
> >
> > *From:* JoeSox <joesox () gmail com>
> > *Sent:* Thursday, February 4, 2021 5:04 PM
> > *To:* ryan () rkhtech org
> > *Cc:* TJ Trout <tj () pcguys us>; NANOG <nanog () nanog org>
> > *Subject:* Re: Suspicious IP reporting
> >
> >
> >
> > How do I setup a firewall when I am not a Verizon engineer?
> >
> > There is a firewall via the antivirus and operating system but that's it.
> >
> > Do you not understand my issue? I thought that is the real problem with
> > the online bullies in this thread.
> >
> > --
> >
> > Thank You,
> >
> > Joe
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 5:01 PM Ryan Hamel <administrator () rkhtech org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Joe,
> >
> >
> >
> > The underlying premise here is, “pick your battles”. If you don’t want an
> > IP address to access your device in anyway, setup a firewall and properly
> > configure it to accept whitelisted traffic only, or just expose a VPN
> > endpoint. The Internet is full of both good and bad actors that probe and
> > scan anything and everything.
> >
> >
> >
> > While some appreciate the notification here, others will find it
> > annoying. We cannot report anything malicious about an IP address on the
> > Internet, unless it does harm to us specifically, otherwise it is false
> > reporting and does create more noise at the ISP, and waste more time
> > getting to the underlying issue.
> >
> >
> >
> > Ryan
> >
> >
> >
> > *From:* NANOG <nanog-bounces+ryan=rkhtech.org () nanog org> *On Behalf Of *
> > JoeSox
> > *Sent:* Thursday, February 4, 2021 4:41 PM
> > *To:* TJ Trout <tj () pcguys us>
> > *Cc:* NANOG <nanog () nanog org>
> > *Subject:* Re: Suspicious IP reporting
> >
> >
> >
> > Do others see this online bully started by Tom? The leader has spoken so
> > the minions follow :)
> >
> > This list  sometimes LOL
> >
> > I think if everyone gets off their high horse, the list communication
> > would be less noisy for the list veterans.
> >
> > --
> >
> > Thank You,
> >
> > Joe
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 4:36 PM TJ Trout <tj () pcguys us> wrote:
> >
> > This seems like a highly suspect request coming from a North American
> > network operator...?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 10:23 AM JoeSox <joesox () gmail com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > This IP is hitting devices on cellular networks for the past day or so.
> >
> >   https://www.abuseipdb.com/whois/79.124.62.86
> >
> > I think this is the info to report it to the ISP.  Any help or if
> > everyone can report it, I would be a happy camper.
> >
> >
> >
> > abuse () 4cloud mobi; abuse () fiberinternet bg
> >
> >
> >
> > https://en.asytech.cn/check-ip/79.124.62.25#gsc.tab=0
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Thank You,
> >
> > Joe