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Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts


From: Mike Hammett <nanog () ics-il net>
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2021 10:17:34 -0600 (CST)

Agreed. 

Well, or interconnection with other grids that *do* have available generation. :-) 




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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 

----- Original Message -----

From: "Robert DeVita" <radevita () mejeticks com> 
To: "Mike Hammett" <nanog () ics-il net>, "Rod Beck" <rod.beck () unitedcablecompany com> 
Cc: nanog () nanog org 
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2021 7:30:50 AM 
Subject: Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts 





What’s going on in Texas has nothing to do with power distribution. It has to do with ability to generate power. 



Robert DeVita 
Founder & CEO 
Mejeticks 
c. 469-441-8864 
e. radevita () mejeticks com 

From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+radevita=mejeticks.com () nanog org> on behalf of Mike Hammett <nanog () ics-il net> 
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2021 7:25:12 AM 
To: Rod Beck <rod.beck () unitedcablecompany com> 
Cc: nanog () nanog org <nanog () nanog org> 
Subject: Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts 


It's cheaper to build 2x, 3x, 4x the aerial plant than to build 1x the underground plant. 


The actual cost per foot is more like 10x difference, but there are right of way, maintenance, etc. costs to factor in 
as well. 




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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 



From: "Rod Beck" <rod.beck () unitedcablecompany com> 
To: "Sean Donelan" <sean () donelan com>, "Mikael Abrahamsson" <swmike () swm pp se> 
Cc: nanog () nanog org 
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2021 6:05:41 AM 
Subject: Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts 


Are the power lines buried like in Europe where I live? 



I really think using poles is crazy and global warming guarantees enough atmospheric turbulence to make it untenable. 
Florida is moving to bury power lines. 






From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+rod.beck=unitedcablecompany.com () nanog org> on behalf of Mikael Abrahamsson via NANOG 
<nanog () nanog org> 
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2021 9:06 AM 
To: Sean Donelan <sean () donelan com> 
Cc: nanog () nanog org <nanog () nanog org> 
Subject: RE: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts 


On Mon, 15 Feb 2021, Sean Donelan wrote: 

Strange the massive shortages and failures are only in one state. 

The extreme cold weather extends northwards across many states, which aren't 
reporting rolling blackouts. 

https://www.texastribune.org/2011/02/08/texplainer-why-does-texas-have-its-own-power-grid/ 

Going at it alone can be beneficial sometimes, sometimes it's not. 

-- 
Mikael Abrahamsson email: swmike () swm pp se 



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