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Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts
From: Bret Clark <bclark () peregrinenetworks net>
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2021 12:23:22 +0000
Texas doesn't generally experience this type of extreme cold. The power grids are being overload due to people using their electric heat or electric portable heaters. ________________________________ From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+bclark=peregrinenetworks.net () nanog org> on behalf of Rod Beck <rod.beck () unitedcablecompany com> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2021 7:09 AM To: Robert Jacobs <rjacobs () pslightwave com>; Mark Tinka <mark@tinka.africa>; nanog () nanog org <nanog () nanog org>; Cory Sell <corysell () protonmail com> Subject: Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts The problems with renewables is that you can't switch on or off and there is no good storage solution. However, the issue in Texas is probably exposed power cables. In Europe they are buried and we have far milder weather than the States. Anyone wants to provide some details on where the system has faltered? It is transmission? Or generation? Or just everything in general? 😃 ________________________________ From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+rod.beck=unitedcablecompany.com () nanog org> on behalf of Cory Sell via NANOG <nanog () nanog org> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2021 5:34 AM To: Robert Jacobs <rjacobs () pslightwave com>; Mark Tinka <mark@tinka.africa>; nanog () nanog org <nanog () nanog org> Subject: RE: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts Ercot has already released actual documentation of the outputs. Wind is NOT the biggest loss here. Even if wind was operating at 100% capacity, we’d be in the same boat due to gas and fossil fuel-related generation being decimated. Estimated 4GW lost for wind doesn’t make up for the 30GW+ estimated being lost from fossil fuels. I only interject because people are already pointing their fingers at renewables being the cause here and trying to pawn off the blame to wind/solar to further their agendas to reduce renewable energy R&D and adoption. Sure, wind isn’t perfect, but looks like solution relied on failed in a massive way. Sent from ProtonMail Mobile On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 10:17 PM, Robert Jacobs <rjacobs () pslightwave com<mailto:rjacobs () pslightwave com>> wrote: How about letting us Texans have more natural gas power plants or even let the gas be delivered to the plants we have so they can provide more power in an emergency. Did not help that 20% of our power is now wind which of course in an ice storm like we are having is shut off... Lots of issues and plenty of politics involved here.. Robert Jacobs​ | Data Center Manager [http://www.pslightwave.com/emailsig/plwlogo.jpg]<http://www.pslightwave.com/> Direct: 832-615-7742<tel:832-615-7742> Mobile: 281-830-2092<tel:281-830-2092> Main: 832‑615‑8000 Fax: 713-510-1650 5959 Corporate Dr. Suite 3300; Houston, TX 77036 [Facebook]<https://www.facebook.com/pslightwave/> [LinkedIn]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/pslightwave> [Twitter]<https://twitter.com/PSLightwave> [http://www.pslightwave.com/emailsig/2020TopWorkplace.png]<http://www.pslightwave.com/> [http://www.pslightwave.com/emailsig/plw-wbenc.jpg] A Certified Woman‑Owned Business 24x7x365 Customer Support: 832-615-8000 | support () pslightwave com ​This electronic message contains information from PS Lightwave which may be privileged and confidential. The information is intended to be for the use of individual(s) or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. If you have received this electronic message in error, please notify me by telephone or e-mail immediately. -----Original Message----- From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+rjacobs=pslightwave.com () nanog org> On Behalf Of Mark Tinka Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 10:06 PM To: nanog () nanog org Subject: Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts On 2/16/21 04:14, Sean Donelan wrote:
Poweroutage.us posted a terrific map, showing the jurisdictional borders of the Texas power outages versus the storm related power outages elsewhere in the country. https://twitter.com/PowerOutage_us/status/1361493394070118402 Sometimes infrastructure planning failures are not due to "natural hazards."
I suppose having some kind of home backup solution wouldn't be too bad right now, even though you may still not get access to services. But at least, you can brew some coffee, and charge your pulse oximetre. Mark.
Current thread:
- RE: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts, (continued)
- RE: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts John van Oppen (Feb 17)
- RE: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts Milt Aitken (Feb 17)
- Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts Mal via NANOG (Feb 19)
- Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts Sean Donelan (Feb 17)
- Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts Carsten Bormann (Feb 17)
- Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts Sean Donelan (Feb 17)
- Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts Carsten Bormann (Feb 17)
- Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts Michael Thomas (Feb 17)
- Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts Fred Baker (Feb 16)
- Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts Rod Beck (Feb 16)
- Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts Bret Clark (Feb 16)
- Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts Mark Tinka (Feb 17)
- Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts Rich Kulawiec (Feb 22)
- Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts Rod Beck (Feb 22)
- Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts Mel Beckman (Feb 22)
- Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts Saku Ytti (Feb 22)
- Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts Mel Beckman (Feb 22)
- Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts Brandon Svec via NANOG (Feb 22)
- Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts Rod Beck (Feb 22)
- Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts Mel Beckman (Feb 22)
- Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts Mel Beckman (Feb 22)