Re: questions about ARIN ipv6 allocation

[Owen DeLong via NANOG <nanog () nanog org>]

I’d also be willing to consolidate under RSA if I could get the same protections I have under LRSA. ARIN won’t do that, 
either.

Owen


> On Dec 4, 2021, at 7:12 PM, John Curran <jcurran () arin net> wrote:
>
> Owen - 
>
>       Correct - ARIN will not allow you to bring non-legacy resources under an LRSA agreement. 
>
> Thanks,
> /John
>
> John Curran
> President and CEO
> American Registry for Internet Numbers
>
>
> > On 4 Dec 2021, at 9:59 PM, Owen DeLong <owen () delong com> wrote:
> >
> > I would be more than happy to consilolidate my ipv6 addresses under my lrsa, but ARIN will not allow it. 
> >
> > Owen
> >
> >
> > > On Dec 4, 2021, at 17:43, John Curran <jcurran () arin net> wrote:
> > >
> > >  Yes Owen, that is correct…
> > >
> > > If an organization insists on maintaining multiple contractual relationships with ARIN (for whatever reason) then 
> > > they will be billed for each relation separately - and that is indeed likely to be more than having a single 
> > > consolidated agreement for all number resources.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > /John
> > >
> > > John Curran
> > > President and CEO
> > > American Registry for Internet Numbers
> > >
> > > > On Dec 4, 2021, at 7:09 PM, Owen DeLong <owen () delong com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > >
> > > > > On Dec 4, 2021, at 8:59 AM, John Curran <jcurran () arin net> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Just for clarity - ARIN’s fee schedule is such that ISP customers (i.e. those with registration service plans) 
> > > > > pay an annual services fee based on their higher category of IPv4 or IPv6 resources – i.e. those with IPv4 
> > > > > resources can obtain a corresponding size of IPv6 resources without any change in size category or increase in 
> > > > > their annual fee. 
> > > > >
> > > > > [Also worth noting - as of January 2022, all end-user customers are moving to the same registration services 
> > > > > plan, and similarly those with just IPv4 number resources be able to obtain corresponding IPv6 resources without 
> > > > > change to their annual fee.]
> > > >
> > > > This, whether they want to or not… In many cases resulting in significant unwanted fee increases, especially if 
> > > > you have a mix of resources covered under RSA and LRSA due to ARIN’s accounting limitations that they are 
> > > > perversely disincentivized against fixing because it allows them to essentially double-bill.
> > > >
> > > > Owen
> > > > >