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Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation
From: Tom Beecher <beecher () beecher cc>
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2021 22:42:33 -0400
It strikes me that ( without pointing at anyone in particular ) that there's a bit of absolutism trending in this conversation. It's possible for many things in this list to be true. - It's possible that AFRINIC may have been following it's policies accurately at the time of the initial allocations,and the current leadership was overstepping their bounds trying to reclaim them. - It's possible that AFRINIC may NOT have been following it's own policies at the time of the initial allocations, and the current leadership is trying to correct those past mistakes. - It's possible that CI accurately represented information to AFRINIC. - It's possible that CI did not. - It's possible that CI has, at all times,been properly in compliance with AFRNIC policies. - It's possible that CI has not. - It's possible that CI may been been following the letter, if not the spirit of the policies. - It's possible that AFRINIC was intentionally delaying restoration of the allocations after the court order. - It's possible that AFRINIC was a little slow to respond, waiting on advice from legal counsel before taking action. I think we could mostly agree that while potentially frustrating ,such things can and have happened in the past,and can and have been rectified. However, where I think we ALL should be able to agree is that CI's garnishment action is exceptionally punitive and out of line. On Mon, Aug 30, 2021 at 10:08 PM John Kristoff <jtk () dataplane org> wrote:
On Mon, 30 Aug 2021 16:29:48 -0700 Owen DeLong via NANOG <nanog () nanog org> wrote:Further, the registries are not engaged in the daily operations of theinternet. Hi Owen, Your statement above I have to insist is simply incorrect. In addition to the traditional services that are relied upon in a variety of daily operations (e.g. WHOIS, IRR, DNS reverse delegations), the increasingly important RPKI TAs/PPs services are of utmost importance in the daily operations of an increasing number of networks within and outside their region. They are just a different kind of infrastructure service operator than we may be commonly thing of when it comes to network operations. John
Current thread:
- Operational need for IP address space (Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation), (continued)
- Operational need for IP address space (Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation) John Curran (Aug 31)
- Re: Operational need for IP address space (Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation) Owen DeLong via NANOG (Aug 31)
- Re: Operational need for IP address space (Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation) John Curran (Aug 31)
- Re: Operational need for IP address space (Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation) Owen DeLong via NANOG (Aug 31)
- Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation Mark Tinka (Aug 30)
- Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation Rubens Kuhl (Aug 30)
- Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation Sabri Berisha (Aug 30)
- Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation Mike Hale (Aug 30)
- Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation Owen DeLong via NANOG (Aug 30)
- Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation John Kristoff (Aug 30)
- Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation Tom Beecher (Aug 30)
- Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation Randy Bush (Aug 30)
- Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation Mark Tinka (Aug 30)
- Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation Owen DeLong via NANOG (Aug 30)
- Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation Noah (Aug 31)
- Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation Mark Tinka (Aug 30)
- Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation Owen DeLong via NANOG (Aug 30)
- Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation Mark Tinka (Aug 30)
- Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation Owen DeLong via NANOG (Aug 30)
- Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation Mark Tinka (Aug 30)
- Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation Rubens Kuhl (Aug 30)