Re: PeerinDB refuses to register certain networks [was: Setting sensible max-prefix limits]

[Sabri Berisha <sabri () cluecentral net>]

----- On Aug 18, 2021, at 2:21 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore patrick () ianai net wrote:

Hi,

> On Aug 18, 2021, at 5:00 PM, Matthew Walster <matthew () walster org> wrote:
> > On Wed, 18 Aug 2021, 21:37 Sabri Berisha, <sabri () cluecentral net> wrote:
> > ----- On Aug 18, 2021, at 2:46 AM, Steve Lalonde steve () enta net wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > > > We always use PeeringDB data and refuse to peer with networks not in PeeingDB
> > >
> > > You are aware that PeerinDB refuses to register certain networks, right? It is
> > > most certainly not a single source of truth.
> > Would you care to expand on this?
>
> I am extremely interested in hearing about this as well.
>
> Specific examples would be useful.

Of course! Including headers to show authenticity. I was very amused by the 
explanation of the "chicken and egg" problem. Who's creating that? The networks
who refuse to peer with non-peeringdb registered ASNs, or peeringdb who won't 
recognize ASNs that are not peering with anyone because nobody wants to peer 
with them because they are not registered in peeringdb because nobody wants to
peer with them? You get the idea.

Thanks,

Sabri
AS31064


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Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2015 04:46:29 -0400
To: Sabri Berisha <sabri () cluecentral net>
From: support () peeringdb com
Reply-To: support () peeringdb com
Subject: Re: [#9192] [PeeringDB] User (sabri) Requesting Access (New Company - Cluecentral Inc)
Message-ID: <1bac170d74e5d3702d3a28b237c87260 () ubersmith peeringdb com>

Dear PeeringDB user,

Registering with peeringDB and peering negotiations are sort of egg and
chicken problem. We only want to have networks registered that already
do have settlement free peering.

After some basic checks it looks like you are only buying transit from 6939/Hurricane Electric, but are not connected 
to any Internet Exchange (e.g. AMS-IX/NL-ix) yet.

Having said this, is it acceptable to you to wait until you have your
1st settlement free peering setup? If you already have existing peering
sessions, please provide the following details to support your request for
peeringdb access:

Your AS number(s)
Which IXP / facilities you are peering at
Some of your peering partners (again AS numbers / name)

Please send your answers to support () peeringdb com or reply to this ticket.


Best regards,
PeeringDB admin on Duty


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