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Re: Asus wifi AP re-writing DNS packets


From: TJ Trout <tj () pcguys us>
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2020 13:47:04 -0700

Have you tried disabling the 'redirect when wan down' feature? I'm guessing
they hijack the dns to redirect the user to a captive portal "your internet
is down" error page possibly?

On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 1:42 PM Anurag Bhatia <me () anuragbhatia com> wrote:

I tried deleting the rule and it drops the traffic completely. So DNS
resolution stops working and I am unsure why. It's not like default drop or
anything. I can edit the rule and whatever active port 53 related rule is
there works. But I want case of no such rule at all. :-)


I setup pihole on Intel NUC little while ago and all Pihole gets is 100%
of wifi client traffic behind Asus wifi management IP. :-\


Plus no matter what DNS I put, queries goes via whatever router gave up
when Asus booted up.


Here's how creepy it gets:

On Rasberry Pi (which is not behind Asus AP but a different switch)

anurag@raspberrypi:~ $ dig whoami.akamai.com @1.1.1.1 a +short
whoami.akamai.net.
162.158.226.218
anurag@raspberrypi:~ $ dig whoami.akamai.com @8.8.8.8 a +short
whoami.akamai.net.
172.253.244.3
anurag@raspberrypi:~ $ dig whoami.akamai.com @9.9.9.9 a +short
whoami.akamai.net.
103.224.242.10
anurag@raspberrypi:~ $

All normal and good.



Now, from the device (which is behind Asus AP):

 ~> dig whoami.akamai.net @1.1.1.1 a +short
172.217.34.65

~> dig whoami.akamai.net @8.8.8.8 a +short
172.217.34.65

~> dig whoami.akamai.net @9.9.9.9 a +short
172.217.34.65

dig whoami.akamai.net @1.2.3.4 a +short
172.217.34.65

dig whoami.akamai.net @5.6.7.8 a +short
172.217.34.65


Essentially Asus picked 8.8.8.8 because I put that during the test and
rebooted the AP. I will stick with 8.8.8.8 until DHCP lease expires and the
new server is provided.


On Thu, Oct 29, 2020 at 2:01 AM Neil Hanlon <neil () shrug pw> wrote:

And if so, can you set up your own service to remove their iptables rule
after it's been added or otherwise counteract it.

At least temporarily, anyways.

-Neil

On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 4:26 PM Ryan Hamel <ryan () rkhtech org> wrote:

I'm curious to know why they would add such a thing, and how you got the
iptables rules from the device. Do these Asus routers provide SSH directly
into the shell?

Ryan
On Oct 28 2020, at 11:33 am, Anurag Bhatia <me () anuragbhatia com> wrote:

Hello,

Wondering anyone from Asus here or anyone who could connect me to the
developers there?

Using Asus RT-AC58U in Access Point(AP) mode and expect it to simply
bridge wired with wireless but seems like it's re-writing DNS packets
source as well as the destination.


   1. DNS port 53 traffic going out, the source is re-written with the
   management IP of the AP on the LAN. So virtually all DNS traffic hits the
   router from the (management) IP of the Asus AP instead of real clients.

   2. If I define DNS as x.x.x.x on DHCP, the Asus AP picks that up and
   re-writes destination to x.x.x.x and hence even if any client uses y.y.y.y,
   the packets are simply re-written.


I see the rule in iptables on Asus AP. All these issues give an idea
that someone created AP mode (besides regular routing mode) and missed to
disable the DNS related NATing features in the AP mode. So far my
discussions with their support have been going quite slow and would greatly
appreciate if someone could connect me to right folks in there so they can
release a firmware fix for it.



Thanks.

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Anurag Bhatia
anuragbhatia.com



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Anurag Bhatia
anuragbhatia.com


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