Re: Hurricane Electric AS6939

[Mike Hammett <nanog () ics-il net>]

Cost isn't always the only factor one does something. 




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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 

----- Original Message -----

From: "Darin Steffl" <darin.steffl () mnwifi com> 
To: "Michael Spears" <Michael () spears io> 
Cc: "Mike Hammett" <nanog () ics-il net>, "Aaron Gould" <aaron1 () gvtc com>, nanog () nanog org 
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2020 8:23:28 AM 
Subject: Re: Hurricane Electric AS6939 


Depending on transport costs, it may be cheaper to just use HE at a datacenter he's already in vs going to a datacenter 
he's not in currently. 


HE has 10G of transit for as low as $900 right now. If 10G of transport from him to an IX is more than that, there's no 
financial incentive to peer instead of buy more transit. Since HE peers with everyone on most IX's, he is essentially 
paying HE for full routes plus peering to the same IX he would go to anyway. It's lower cost and you kill two birds 
with one stone. I understand the desire to have your own connection to an IX but having HE in the mix is basically like 
peering direct since they're everywhere in nearly every IX. The other upside is you don't need to waste time trying to 
establish bilateral peering sessions with providers who don't peer with the route servers. 


On Wed, Oct 14, 2020, 8:09 AM Michael Spears < michael () spears io > wrote: 





Yep. Get on some IXes first. You’d be able to offload a ton of traffic to free peering, vs sending everything via the 
transit you pay for. 



From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+michael= spears.io () nanog org > On Behalf Of Mike Hammett 
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2020 8:20 PM 
To: Aaron Gould < aaron1 () gvtc com > 
Cc: nanog () nanog org 
Subject: Re: Hurricane Electric AS6939 


https://bgp.he.net/AS16527 



You don't appear to be on any IXes. Definitely join some IXes before buying another 100G of transit. 



DFW has a couple and there are some more that are starting up. 





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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




From: "Aaron Gould" < aaron1 () gvtc com > 
To: nanog () nanog org 
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2020 6:29:55 PM 
Subject: Hurricane Electric AS6939 

Do y’all like HE for Internet uplink? I’m thinking about using them for 100gig in Texas. It would be for my eyeballs 
ISP. We currently have Spectrum, Telia and Cogent. 

-Aaron