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Re: AFRINIC IP Block Thefts -- The Saga Continues


From: Mel Beckman <mel () beckman org>
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2020 15:17:16 +0000

I’ve done the simple thing: I’ve blocked all emails with the keyword AFRINIC in them. I’m not willing to let my inbox 
be swamped with another deluge of “pore spilling” (whatever that is) vitriol.

 -mel beckman

On Nov 16, 2020, at 7:07 AM, Elad Cohen <elad () netstyle io> wrote:


Tom,

Until today all I wrote was facts and evidence, in the contrary to Pore-spilling Ronald. When Ronald keeps defaming me 
here non-stop, Yes my full right is to sue him, even if you prefer that my blood will be shed here by his filthy soul 
and pores. And you can be sure that I will respond to any of his defamation messages.

"No value to the community" - there is value to the community, anyone which is following Pore-spilling Ronald is 
following the ancient snake, it is not written in Old Testament, it is written in Old Scripture, go ahead and check, 
Ronald visual appearance match one by one to the lawless one description (lawless one is a term of New Testament) 
according to Old Scripture.

Go swim in Ronald juicy pores if you would like.


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From: Tom Beecher <beecher () beecher cc>
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 4:54 PM
To: Elad Cohen <elad () netstyle io>
Cc: nanog () nanog org <nanog () nanog org>; admins () nanog org <admins () nanog org>
Subject: Re: AFRINIC IP Block Thefts -- The Saga Continues

I would like to formally request that Mr. Cohen's privileges to post to this list be revoked, or otherwise curtailed.

It's one thing to dispute facts with evidence, or generally disagree on a topic. However , threats of legal action and 
personal attacks citing Old Testament mumbo jumbo, while creative, provide no value to the community.

As Mr. Herrin stated well, we are all swimming in enough nutter butter conspiracy theory nonsense every day. I hope we 
don't normalize it here too.

On Mon, Nov 16, 2020 at 4:24 AM Elad Cohen <elad () netstyle io<mailto:elad () netstyle io>> wrote:
----
If AfriNIC says your "purchases" are misappropriation you'll have to do a lot better than conspiracy theories and 
phrenology in counter argument.
----

Why are you using the word "purchases" with quotation marks, it seems that you are a victim of your next paragraph, and 
I'm writing it with all due respect.

Did I start legal proceedings with AfriNIC with conspiracy theories or with facts and data?

Phrenology (and racism) is the field of Coconut Guilmette, according to his own quotes right here in Nanog.

"If AfriNIC says" - AfriNIC, nor Spamhaus, nor Ops-Trust, nor MyBroadband, are not the word of god and are not above 
law and justice.

To remind to everyone: AfriNIC filed a police complaint on themselves. And AfriNIC CEO lied to the community in the 
following link when he wrote that I was given a chance to respond when in reality all my emails were ignored. And 
AfriNIC CEO is intentionally hiding from the community that any AfriNIC policy is applied also to any legacy netblock 
that even don't have a signed RSA (according to the legal proceedings against AfriNIC, and in contradiction to AfriNIC 
"Legacy Resource Holders" webpage: https://afrinic.net/membership/legacy-resource ), it have implications on each and 
every legacy resource holder all over the world (that a RIR can just delete a legacy netblock).

https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/community-discuss/2020-January/003458.html - "We are also ensuring that the current 
holder/contact of the resources are provided with the opportunity of proving their ownership."


Besides the above, AfriNIC also have a financial motive in their actions, approximately up to more $4M per year from 
assets that they illegaly and unjustifiably took from me (by sub-allocating them to AfriNIC members), while writing 
lies to their community and playing a long with the "community pressure" game.


I find the actions of AfriNIC to be very dangerous, because they are not based on facts and data and law and justice, 
but only on community pressure. Any network operator, that can elevate himself/herself from bad habits (like enjoying 
seeing blood spilled and jealousy), would know that today it is me but tomorrow it can be you.



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From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+elad=netstyle.io () nanog org<mailto:netstyle.io () nanog org>> on behalf of William Herrin 
<bill () herrin us<mailto:bill () herrin us>>
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 10:00 AM
Cc: nanog () nanog org<mailto:nanog () nanog org> <nanog () nanog org<mailto:nanog () nanog org>>
Subject: Re: AFRINIC IP Block Thefts -- The Saga Continues

On Sun, Nov 15, 2020 at 10:58 PM Elad Cohen <elad () netstyle io<mailto:elad () netstyle io>> wrote:
Anyone that is interested to receive any answer from me, please email me directly, I will say that Ronald Guilmette 
is intentionally spreading lies, and for the sake of Nanog community I will not reply to him over and over in the 
same coin, I was gladly interested in the past to share all the information (including AfriNIC legal proceedings) 
with a person respected by the Nanog community (and I'm still interested to do so today), such as William Herrin, or 
to anyone else respected by the Nanog community.

Ugh. I don't suppose I can gracefully decline this honor?


 legacy netblocks that I purchased legally, in what AfriNIC and Ronald Guillmette and Jan Vermeulen are calling 
"misappropriation". If anyone can explain that to me I will be thankful.
Ronald Guilmette match one by one to the description of the lawless one in old scriptures:

If AfriNIC says your "purchases" are misappropriation you'll have to
do a lot better than conspiracy theories and phrenology in counter
argument.

You could probably have picked a better venue for it too, one whose
participants aren't presently being treated to an exhausting quantity
of whack-job conspiracy theories every time they turn on the news.
You'll find us predisposed to believe the peddler of a conspiracy
theory to be a fool.

Regards,
Bill Herrin

P.S. Ronald, I know you've been spoken to about ad hominem attacks.
You could have stopped after the first two paragraphs and the link.
Your screed and faux questions about what crooks you thought these
folks to be added exactly nothing to the conversation you hoped to
start.

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