Re: AFRINIC IP Block Thefts -- The Saga Continues

[Tom Beecher <beecher () beecher cc>]

I would like to formally request that Mr. Cohen's privileges to post to
this list be revoked, or otherwise curtailed.

It's one thing to dispute facts with evidence, or generally disagree on a
topic. However , threats of legal action and personal attacks citing Old
Testament mumbo jumbo, while creative, provide no value to the community.

As Mr. Herrin stated well, we are all swimming in enough nutter butter
conspiracy theory nonsense every day. I hope we don't normalize it here
too.

On Mon, Nov 16, 2020 at 4:24 AM Elad Cohen <elad () netstyle io> wrote:

> ----
> *If AfriNIC says your "purchases" are misappropriation you'll have to do a
> lot better than conspiracy theories and phrenology in counter argument.*
> ----
>
> Why are you using the word "purchases" with quotation marks, it seems that
> you are a victim of your next paragraph, and I'm writing it with all due
> respect.
>
> Did I start legal proceedings with AfriNIC with conspiracy theories or
> with facts and data?
>
> Phrenology (and racism) is the field of Coconut Guilmette, according to
> his own quotes right here in Nanog.
>
> "If AfriNIC says" - AfriNIC, nor Spamhaus, nor Ops-Trust, nor MyBroadband,
> are not the word of god and are not above law and justice.
>
> To remind to everyone: AfriNIC filed a police complaint on themselves. And
> AfriNIC CEO lied to the community in the following link when he wrote that
> I was given a chance to respond when in reality all my emails were ignored.
> And AfriNIC CEO is intentionally hiding from the community that any AfriNIC
> policy is applied also to any legacy netblock that even don't have a signed
> RSA (according to the legal proceedings against AfriNIC, and in
> contradiction to AfriNIC "Legacy Resource Holders" webpage:
> https://afrinic.net/membership/legacy-resource ), it have implications on
> each and every legacy resource holder all over the world (that a RIR can
> just delete a legacy netblock).
>
>
> https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/community-discuss/2020-January/003458.html
> - "We are also ensuring that the current holder/contact of the resources
> are provided with the opportunity of proving their ownership."
>
>
> Besides the above, AfriNIC also have a financial motive in their actions,
> approximately up to more $4M per year from assets that they illegaly and
> unjustifiably took from me (by sub-allocating them to AfriNIC members),
> while writing lies to their community and playing a long with the
> "community pressure" game.
>
>
> I find the actions of AfriNIC to be very dangerous, because they are not
> based on facts and data and law and justice, but only on community
> pressure. Any network operator, that can elevate himself/herself from bad
> habits (like enjoying seeing blood spilled and jealousy), would know that
> today it is me but tomorrow it can be you.
>
>
>
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> *From:* NANOG <nanog-bounces+elad=netstyle.io () nanog org> on behalf of
> William Herrin <bill () herrin us>
> *Sent:* Monday, November 16, 2020 10:00 AM
> *Cc:* nanog () nanog org <nanog () nanog org>
> *Subject:* Re: AFRINIC IP Block Thefts -- The Saga Continues
>
> On Sun, Nov 15, 2020 at 10:58 PM Elad Cohen <elad () netstyle io> wrote:
> > Anyone that is interested to receive any answer from me, please email me
> directly, I will say that Ronald Guilmette is intentionally spreading lies,
> and for the sake of Nanog community I will not reply to him over and over
> in the same coin, I was gladly interested in the past to share all the
> information (including AfriNIC legal proceedings) with a person respected
> by the Nanog community (and I'm still interested to do so today), such as
> William Herrin, or to anyone else respected by the Nanog community.
>
> Ugh. I don't suppose I can gracefully decline this honor?
>
>
> >  legacy netblocks that I purchased legally, in what AfriNIC and Ronald
> Guillmette and Jan Vermeulen are calling "misappropriation". If anyone can
> explain that to me I will be thankful.
> > Ronald Guilmette match one by one to the description of the lawless one
> in old scriptures:
>
> If AfriNIC says your "purchases" are misappropriation you'll have to
> do a lot better than conspiracy theories and phrenology in counter
> argument.
>
> You could probably have picked a better venue for it too, one whose
> participants aren't presently being treated to an exhausting quantity
> of whack-job conspiracy theories every time they turn on the news.
> You'll find us predisposed to believe the peddler of a conspiracy
> theory to be a fool.
>
> Regards,
> Bill Herrin
>
> P.S. Ronald, I know you've been spoken to about ad hominem attacks.
> You could have stopped after the first two paragraphs and the link.
> Your screed and faux questions about what crooks you thought these
> folks to be added exactly nothing to the conversation you hoped to
> start.