RE: Phoenix-IX Contact

[Marcus Josephson <mjosephson () inap com>]

I tried to get a link to PHX-IX for months. Never heard back from them, went with Digital Realty Phoenix


From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+mjosephson=inap.com () nanog org> On Behalf Of Kate Gerry
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2020 11:06 AM
To: Matt Hoppes <mattlists () rivervalleyinternet net>
Cc: nanog () nanog org list <nanog () nanog org>
Subject: Re: Phoenix-IX Contact

Matt,

I am running on a huge assumption here, but I think Phoenix-IX runs on donated infrastructure. From what I recall, 
there was only an NRC to join Phoenix-IX.

And in regards to Walt's suggestion, it looks like HE already started one with Stellar Technologies. https://48ix.net 
but it is only in a single facility. So until that IX grows, both in peers and footprint, I'm stuck on Phoenix-IX.

I have wondered what happens if a participant storms the IX. Will somebody appear? Because attempts to reach their 
NOC/peering handles has resulted in a lack of response.

I also wonder how the other Ninja-IX exchanges are running, I haven't heard anything about them, is there the same lack 
of communication? Or do those have a local staff?

—
Kate


On Nov 10, 2020, at 06:15, Matt Hoppes <mattlists () rivervalleyinternet net<mailto:mattlists () rivervalleyinternet 
net>> wrote:

How is the IX still running?  Surely someone must be paying colo rent?

On 11/10/20 9:03 AM, Eric Kuhnke wrote:

Always a good time for network operators to consider the risks of having any one person as a single point of failure 
for something kind of important:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bus_factor
Disaster recovery and continuity of business plans should always include the concept of what if some percentage of the 
key team members were to be suddenly unavailable permanently (the Malaysian airline incident, for example).
On Mon, Nov 9, 2020 at 8:08 PM Kate Gerry <kgerry () outlook com <mailto:kgerry () outlook com<mailto:kgerry () outlook 
com%20%3cmailto:kgerry () outlook com>>> wrote:
   Is there anybody else even there? I thought that it was all Paul's show!
   If I was able to (as in, had access to), I would offer to help/run
   with the IX. I may live in California, but it's a realistic car trip
   back and forth to Phoenix.
   --
   Kate

   On Nov 9, 2020, at 17:58, Mike Hammett <nanog () ics-il net
   <mailto:nanog () ics-il net<mailto:nanog () ics-il net%0b   %3cmailto:nanog () ics-il net>>> wrote:

   Paul's LinkedIn seems to show that he checked out in April. Let me
   know if you have any success reaching anyone there.



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   Mike Hammett
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   *From:*"Kate Gerry" <kgerry () outlook com <mailto:kgerry () outlook com<mailto:kgerry () outlook 
com%20%3cmailto:kgerry () outlook com>>>
   *To:*"Bill Woodcock" <woody () pch net <mailto:woody () pch net<mailto:woody () pch net%20%3cmailto:woody () pch 
net>>>
   *Cc:*nanog () nanog org <mailto:nanog () nanog org>
   *Sent:*Monday, November 9, 2020 5:44:42 PM
   *Subject:*Re: Phoenix-IX Contact

   Just a heads-up, I never heard a word from anybody at Phoenix-IX.

   Is there anybody still running the IX? Or is it just on autopilot?
   It'd be nice if anybody had some information on whatever happened
   to Paul. Hopefully he is okay!

   --
   Kate

       On Sep 14, 2020, at 13:33, Kate Gerry <kgerry () outlook com
       <mailto:kgerry () outlook com<mailto:kgerry () outlook com%0b       %3cmailto:kgerry () outlook com>>> wrote:

       Thank Bill! I've been trying to reach Paul for ages now,
       hopefully he pops back up again. We want to upgrade.

       On an unrelated note, it looks like somebody has their ticket
       system subscribed to the list... Awesome.

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       --
       Kate


           On Sep 14, 2020, at 12:48, Bill Woodcock <woody () pch net
           <mailto:woody () pch net<mailto:woody () pch net%0b           %3cmailto:woody () pch net>>> wrote:



               On Sep 14, 2020, at 9:31 PM, Kate Gerry
               <kgerry () outlook com <mailto:kgerry () outlook com<mailto:kgerry () outlook com%20%3cmailto:kgerry () 
outlook com>>> wrote:

               Does anybody have a contact who works at Phoenix-IX? I
               have been attempting to reach somebody there for a
               while now without any luck.

               Attempts to each out topeering () phoenix-ix net<mailto:topeering () phoenix-ix net>
               <mailto:peering () phoenix-ix net>as well as Ninja-IX
               have been without any luck. We also tried reaching out
               to Paul Emmons via LinkedIn mail and never received a
               response.


           Paul is the correct person.

                                          -Bill