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Re: South Africa On Lockdown - Coronavirus - Update!


From: Eric Tykwinski <eric-list () truenet com>
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2020 18:19:14 -0400

I guess I wasn’t as detailed as should be, multi factor authentication should hopefully have 1 standard which will work 
for everything.  So we have an app on our phone to authenticate after a username/password which give a 6 digit key, or 
we use a hardware based key to sign a OTP.  Really either doesn’t matter, but trying to get endu sers to switch between 
each for every login is going to hamper acceptance in the large scale.

MailOps, would probably the best example, as the spam is generated simply from usually not having anything because it’s 
just too difficult to implement.

Sincerely,

Eric Tykwinski
TrueNet, Inc.
P: 610-429-8300

On Mar 23, 2020, at 6:02 PM, Tom Beecher <beecher () beecher cc> wrote:

I see no possible future outcome in which "one simple authentication mechanism" could ever be remotely close to 
reasonably secure. 



On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 5:57 PM Eric Tykwinski <eric-list () truenet com <mailto:eric-list () truenet com>> wrote:
I think that’s the major sticky point, I would hope we could all agree on one thing, but that also leaves one entry 
point of failure.  Hopefully we can all agree that FIDO2, OAUTH2, et al, with be a winner in the long run so 
everything can just use one simple authentication mechanism.

Sincerely,

Eric Tykwinski
TrueNet, Inc.
P: 610-429-8300

On Mar 23, 2020, at 5:23 PM, Mark Tinka <mark.tinka () seacom mu <mailto:mark.tinka () seacom mu>> wrote:



On 23/Mar/20 22:39, Keith Medcalf wrote:

Hardware tokens are nothing more than dedicated hardware TOTP devices with perhaps a few additional parameters 
programmed at manufacturing time.  Example, RSAID keyfobs are nothing more than TOTP generators with manufacturer 
programmed secrets and dedicated clock and display hardware with no external interface which permits access to the 
secret.

For some of my banks, OTP tokens are issued via their device apps. I
used to have physical key fobs for that; those are now gone.

Admittedly, not all of my banks have made the transition. On the other
hand, many of the banks have moved on to support Face ID and QR code
verification via device apps.

Not specific to VPN access management, but in the same vein.

Mark.



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