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RE: COVID-19 vs. peering wars


From: Steve Mikulasik via NANOG <nanog () nanog org>
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2020 14:31:09 +0000

In Canada the CRTC really needs to get on Canadian ISPs about peering very liberally at IXs in each province. I know of 
one major institution right now that would have a major work from home issue resolved if one big ISP would peer with 
one big tier 1 in the IX they are both located at in the same province. Instead traffic needs to flow across the 
country or to the USA to get back to the same city.


From: NANOG <nanog-bounces () nanog org> On Behalf Of Matthew Petach
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2020 4:15 PM
To: Mike Bolitho <mikebolitho () gmail com>
Cc: NANOG <nanog () nanog org>
Subject: COVID-19 vs. peering wars

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On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 10:27 AM Mike Bolitho <mikebolitho () gmail com<mailto:mikebolitho () gmail com>> wrote:
Restoration:

The repair or returning to service of one or more telecommunications services that have experienced a service outage or 
are unusable for any reason, including a damaged or impaired telecommunications facility. Such repair or returning to 
service may be done by patching, rerouting, substitution of component parts or pathways, and other means, as determined 
necessary by a service vendor.

https://www.cisa.gov/sites/default/files/publications/OEC%20TSP%20Operations%20Guide%20Final%2012062016_FINAL%20508C.pdf<https://www.cisa.gov/sites/default/files/publications/OEC%20TSP%20Operations%20Guide%20Final%2012062016_FINAL%20508C.pdf>

My understanding, and what we did while I worked for a Tier I ISP, was that even for degraded circuits we had to do 
everything in our power to restore to full operations. If capacity is an issue and causes TSP coded DIA circuits to be 
unusable then that falls under the "any reason" clause of that line.

- Mike Bolitho

If you're going to bang that drum, the place you're going to get the most buck-for-your-bang is using it to force 
better cooperation between ISPs.

It appears that baking cakes was not sufficient to get recalcitrant players to work together.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/mpetach/4031195041<https://www.flickr.com/photos/mpetach/4031195041>

Perhaps a global pandemic may be sufficient to have government begin to *compel* networks to interconnect at locations 
at which they share common peering infrastructure?

If you're worried about congestion and performance, that would be the place to start pushing.

Matt
staying safely at home away from the flame-fest that may ensue from this.   ^_^;


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