Re: Devil's Advocate - Segment Routing, Why?

[Mark Tinka <mark.tinka () seacom mu>]

On 21/Jun/20 21:15, adamv0025 () netconsultings com wrote:

> I wouldn't say it's known to many as not many folks are actually limited by only up to ~1M customer connections, or 
> next level up, only up to ~1M customer VPNs.   

It's probably less of a problem now than it was 10 years ago. But, yes,
I don't have any real-world experience.



> Well yeah, things work differently in VRFs, not a big surprise.  
> And what about an example of bad flowspec routes/filters cutting the boxes off net -where having those flowspec 
> routes/filters contained within an Internet VRF would not have such an effect.
> See, it goes either way.  
> Would be interesting to see a comparison of good vs bad for the Internet routes in VRF vs in Internet routes in 
> global/default routing table.

Well, the global table is the basics, and VRF's is where sexy lives :-).


> No, that's just a result of having a finite FIB/RIB size -if you want to cut these resources into virtual pieces 
> you'll naturally get your equations above.
> But if you actually construct your testing to showcase the delta between how much FIB/RIB space is taken by x 
> prefixes with each in a VRF as opposed to all in a single default VRF (global routing table) the delta is negligible. 
> (Yes negligible even in case of per prefix VPN label allocation method -which I'm assuming no one is using anyways as 
> it inherently doesn't scale and would limit you to ~1M VPN prefixes though per-CE/per-next-hop VPN label allocation 
> method gives one the same functionality as per-prefix one while pushing the limit to ~1M PE-CE links/IFLs which from 
> my experience is sufficient for most folks out there). 

Like I said, with today's CPU's and memory, probably not an issue. But
it's not an area I play in, so those with more experience - like
yourself - would know better.

Mark.