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Re: 60ms cross continent


From: Mike Lyon <mike.lyon () gmail com>
Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2020 19:56:05 -0700

For the IoT/M2M stuff that doesn’t require huge amounts of data, there is  a Silicon Valley startup that is deploying 
cube sats for just that.

Swarm Technologies

https://www.swarm.space/

-Mike

On Jul 8, 2020, at 19:49, Denys Fedoryshchenko <nuclearcat () nuclearcat com> wrote:

On 2020-07-08 10:05, Mark Tinka wrote:
On 7/Jul/20 21:58, Eric Kuhnke wrote:
Watching the growth of terrestrial fiber (and PTP microwave) networks
going inland from the west and east African coasts has been
interesting. There's a big old C-band earth station on the hill above
Freetown, Sierra Leone that was previously the capital's only link to
the outside world. Obsoleted for some years now thanks to the
submarine cable and landing station. I imagine they might keep things
live as a backup path with a small C-band transponder MHz commit and
SCPC modems linked to an earth station somewhere in Europe, but not
with very much capacity or monthly cost.
The landing station in Mogadishu had a similar effect.
The early years of submarine fibre in Africa always had satellite as a
backup. In fact, many satellite companies that served Africa with
Internet prior to submarine fibre were banking on subsea and terrestrial
failures to remain relevant. It worked between 2009 - 2013, when
terrestrial builds and operation had plenty of teething problems. Those
companies have since either disappeared or moved their services over to
fibre as well.
In that time, it has simply become impossible to have any backup
capacity on satellite anymore. There is too much active fibre bandwidth
being carried around and out of/into Africa for any satellite system to
make sense. Rather, diversifying terrestrial and submarine capacity is
the answer, and that is growing quite well.
Plenty of new cable systems that are launching this year, next year and
the next 3 years. At the moment, one would say there is sufficient
submarine capacity to keep the continent going in case of a major subsea
cut (like we saw in January when both the WACS and SAT-3 cables got cut
at the same time, and were out for over a month).
Satellite earth stations are not irrelevant, however. They still do get
used to provide satellite-based TV services, and can also be used for
media houses who need to hook up to their network to broadcast video
when reporting in the region (even though uploading a raw file back home
over the Internet is where the tech. has now gone).
Mark.

I don't think traditional satellites have much future as backbone. Only as broadcasting media.
Most are still acting as dumb RF converters, but we can't expect much more from them.
On geostationary orbit, it is not only expensive to bring each additional kg, but also they
need to keep it simple as possible, as it is all above van allen belt, and it needs to run there
without any maintenance for 7+ years.
So if SpaceX managed to squeeze in their satellites at least basic processing (and seems they did),
it will improve satellite capabilities (and competitiveness) greatly.
The only thing i hope, if they had space for some M2M IoT stuff, similar to ORBCOMM.


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