Re: 5G roadblock: labor

[Justin Oeder <jcoeder () gmail com>]

I’ve always pondered the difference between compute in the tower over compute in a well-connected metro data center.  
Yet to find it for any use case except the 5G x86 supporting infrastructure.

Justin

From: NANOG <nanog-bounces () nanog org> on behalf of Mike Hammett <nanog () ics-il net>
Date: Thursday, January 2, 2020 at 9:10 AM
To: Brandon Butterworth <brandon () rd bbc co uk>
Cc: North American Network Operators Group <nanog () nanog org>
Subject: Re: 5G roadblock: labor

I know there are a couple companies doing it, but compute at the tower isn't going to go anywhere. It makes very little 
sense to put it at the tower when you can put it in one location per metro area.



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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
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Midwest-IX
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From: "Brandon Butterworth" <brandon () rd bbc co uk>
To: jdambrosia () gmail com
Cc: "North American Network Operators Group" <nanog () nanog org>
Sent: Wednesday, January 1, 2020 9:35:15 AM
Subject: Re: 5G roadblock: labor

On Wed Jan 01, 2020 at 09:29:20AM -0500, jdambrosia () gmail com wrote:
> Given the deployment of Wi-Fi into so many different applications
> - your statement that 5G is to "replace" WiFi seems overly ambitious

We might think that but it is serious. They want to own it all
and there is a small cabal of operators owning the spectrum so
little room for new competitors.

Here's a project we did exploring some of the ambition
https://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/blog/2019-02-5g-mobile-augmented-reality-bath

Previously we avoided the old Telco CDNs by sticking to regular
Internet CDNs and building our own but edge compute (mobile CDN
but a better name to compete with AWS) is more insidious as you
may not be able to get the same result from CDNs out on the net.

Either the content providers or the external CDNs they use will
have to pay to use the mobile CDN. How they will scale that at all
those sites will be interesting to see.

> Perhaps preventing WiFi from further penetration is a better way
> to look at it?

If the mobile companies are providing the WiFi routers they can
control it (see LTE WiFi attempt) and one day replace it with
5G or 6G in all the things. If they make a better job of it than
everyones devices fighting for 5GHz then they may succeed.

brandon