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Re: QUIC traffic throttled on AT&T residential


From: Michael Brown <michael () supermathie net>
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2020 19:32:21 -0500

On 2020-02-18 7:07 p.m., Ross Tajvar wrote:
Are you suggesting that ATT block all QUIC across their network?
Blocking a (for you) undesirable option when an established fallback
exists is a much better end user experience than introducing breakage
into that option

When you throttle or subtly break things you get:

On 2020-02-18 7:12 p.m., Daniel Sterling wrote:
One might argue they already *are* doing so; QUIC is essentially
unusable on my AT&T ipv4 residential connection (and a web search
suggests I'm not alone).

Or: I no longer use my ISP's IPv6 access (via 6rd) since it would cause
terrible slowdowns due to packet loss when it broke

Or: some AT&T customers cannot connect to our customers due to IPv6
HTTPS interception: https://meta.discourse.org/t/-/140769/3

Or (probably the same problem):
https://tutanota.com/blog/posts/att-blocks-tutanota/

With blocking in these cases, QUIC falls back to TCP, Happy Eyeballs
falls back to IPv4, everybody's happy.


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