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Re: BGP route hijack by AS10990


From: Nick Hilliard <nick () foobar org>
Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2020 21:27:04 +0100

Sabri Berisha wrote on 01/08/2020 20:59:
My point is that there can be operational reasons to do so, and whatever
they wish to do on their network is perfectly fine. As long as they don't
bother the rest of the world with it.

I get what you're saying, and am a big fan of personal responsibility, but when a vendor ships a product like a BGP optimiser, it requires that you run your network with the safety controls removed.

It's no different in principle to shipping guns with the safety welded to off, or hot-wiring 20kW cables to bypass your RCDs. It can produce some great results, no doubt about it, but sooner or later you're guaranteed that there's going to be a nasty accident.

In any individual case, it's understandable to assign blame to an operator for messing up their configs. In the general case, shipping products with dangerous-by-default configurations is going lead to more accidents happening.

At this point, a large proportion of the major routing leaks on the internet can be associated with bgp optimisers and Noction's name appears with disturbing regularity. This is an appalling record, not least because it's almost entirely preventable.

Nick


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