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Re: Abuse Desks
From: Matt Corallo via NANOG <nanog () nanog org>
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 21:09:51 -0400
Good thing I care, but that's missing the point here - the volume of abuse requests makes the entire abuse system unworkable. Not for me so much, I can deal with the volume (a few obnoxious individuals aside), but AWS/OVH/Hertzner appear to have decided they cannot, and that means I can't contact them if there's something more serious going on. I highly doubt so many folks "don't care" about potentially compromised hosts, in fact I know for sure several of them have deployed a number of full-time staff to build solutions to monitor for such things. The fact that those solutions often don't involve their abuse system should tell us something. Matt On 4/29/20 3:44 AM, Dan Hollis wrote:
On Tue, 28 Apr 2020, Matt Corallo wrote:Sadly dumb kids are plentiful. If you have to nag an abuse desk every time they sell a server to a kid who’s experimenting with nmap for the first time then.... we’ll end up exactly where we are - abuse contacts are not a reliable way to get in touch with anyone, and definitely not a reliable way to do so fast or with any reasonably large network. Please don’t clog the otherwise-useful system.compromised servers on your infrastructure hosting nigerian criminals look much the same as a script kiddie experimenting with nmap.If you have trouble sleeping at night, I’d recommend the “PasswordAuthentication no” option in sshd_config.you either care about reports of potentially compromised hosts on your infrastructure or you don't. -Dan
Current thread:
- Re: Abuse Desks, (continued)
- Re: Abuse Desks Mukund Sivaraman (Apr 28)
- Re: Abuse Desks Matt Corallo via NANOG (Apr 28)
- Re: Abuse Desks Mukund Sivaraman (Apr 28)
- Re: Abuse Desks Matt Corallo via NANOG (Apr 28)
- Re: Abuse Desks Mukund Sivaraman (Apr 28)
- Re: Abuse Desks Matt Palmer (Apr 29)
- Re: Abuse Desks Mike Hammett (Apr 29)
- Re: Abuse Desks J. Hellenthal via NANOG (Apr 29)
- Re: Abuse Desks bzs (Apr 29)
- Re: Abuse Desks Dan Hollis (Apr 29)
- Re: Abuse Desks Matt Corallo via NANOG (Apr 29)
- Re: Abuse Desks Chris Adams (Apr 29)
- Re: Abuse Desks sronan (Apr 29)
- Re: Abuse Desks Mel Beckman (Apr 29)
- Re: Abuse Desks Shane Ronan (Apr 29)
- Re: Abuse Desks Mel Beckman (Apr 29)
- Re: Abuse Desks Mike Hammett (Apr 29)
- Re: Abuse Desks Valdis Klētnieks (Apr 29)
- Re: Abuse Desks Joe Greco (Apr 29)
- Re: Abuse Desks Mel Beckman (Apr 29)
- Re: Abuse Desks Joe Greco (Apr 29)