Re: RIPE our of IPv4

[Mike Hammett <nanog () ics-il net>]

"So if they do care about IPv6 connectivity, they haven’t communicated that to us." 


Nor will they, but that doesn't mean IPv6 isn't important. 


Frankly, I'm surprised anti-IPv6 people still have employment. 




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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

Midwest-IX 
http://www.midwest-ix.com 

----- Original Message -----

From: "Brian Knight" <ml () knight-networks com> 
To: "Mark Andrews" <marka () isc org> 
Cc: "nanog" <nanog () nanog org> 
Sent: Friday, November 29, 2019 10:29:17 AM 
Subject: Re: RIPE our of IPv4 


> On Nov 27, 2019, at 4:04 PM, Mark Andrews <marka () isc org> wrote: 
>
>
>
> > On 28 Nov 2019, at 06:08, Brian Knight <ml () knight-networks com> wrote: 
> >
> > > On 2019-11-26 17:11, Ca By wrote: 
> > > On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 12:15 AM Sabri Berisha <sabri () cluecentral net> 
> > > wrote: 
> > > > ----- On Nov 26, 2019, at 1:36 AM, Doug Barton dougb () dougbarton us wrote: 
> >
> > [snip] 
> > > > there is no ROI at this point. In this kind of environment there needs to 
> > > > be a strong case to invest the capex to support IPv6. 
> > > > IPv6 must be supported on the CxO level in order to be deployed. 
> > > > Thanks, 
> > > > Sabri, (Badum tsss) MBA 
> > > I see....well let me translate it you MBA-eese for you: 
> > > FANG deployed ipv6 nearly 10 years ago. Since deploying ipv6, the cohort 
> > > experienced 300% CAGR. Also, everything is mobile, and all mobile providers 
> > > in the usa offer ipv6 by default in most cases. Latency! Scale! As your 
> > > company launches its digital transformation iot 2020 virtualization 
> > > container initiatives, ipv6 will be an integral part of staying relevant on 
> > > the blockchain. Also, FANG did it nearly 10 years ago. Big content and 
> > > big eyeballs are on ipv6, ipv4 is a winnowing longtail of irrelevance and 
> > > iot botnets. 
> >
> > None of which matters a damn to almost all of my business eyeball customers. They can still get from our network to 
> > 100% of all Internet content & services via IPv4 in 2019. 
>
> No you can’t. You can’t reach the machine I’m typing on via IPv4 and it is ON THE INTERNET. It is directly reachable 
> via IPv6. Selling Internet connectivity without IPv6 should be considered fraud these days. Don’t 
> you believe in “Truth in Advertising”? 

I had meant to write “They can still get from our network to 100% of all Internet content and services that matter to 
them [our customers] via IPv4...” 

0% of my IPv4-only customers have opened tickets saying they cannot reach some service that is only IPv6 accessible. So 
if they do care about IPv6 connectivity, they haven’t communicated that to us. 

> Mark Andrews, ISC 
> 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia 
> PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: marka () isc org 

Thanks, 

-Brian