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Re: RIPE our of IPv4
From: Doug Barton <dougb () dougbarton us>
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2019 01:36:43 -0800
On 2019-11-25 1:47 PM, Valdis Klētnieks wrote:
On Tue, 26 Nov 2019 06:46:52 +1100, Mark Andrews said:On 26 Nov 2019, at 03:53, Dmitry Sherman <dmitry () interhost net> wrote:  I believe it’s Eyeball network’s matter to free IPv4 blocks and move to v6.It requires both sides to move to IPv6. Why should the cost of maintaining working networks be borne alone by the eyeball networks? That is what is mostly happening today with CGN.I believe that Dmitry's point is that we will still require IPv4 addresses for new organizations deploying dual-stack
Right, which is why we started warning folks about this issue 10+ years ago, when IPv4 was still plentiful and cheap.
But even content networks have NAT options, and while most of them are not pretty, the options become more limited every day that passes.
I get that some people still don't like it, but the answer is IPv6. Or, folks can keep playing NAT games, etc. But one wonders at what point rolling out IPv6 costs less than all the fun you get with [CG]NAT.
Doug
Current thread:
- Re: RIPE our of IPv4, (continued)
- Re: RIPE our of IPv4 Jared Mauch (Nov 30)
- Re: RIPE our of IPv4 Matthew Kaufman (Nov 30)
- Re: RIPE our of IPv4 Billy Crook (Nov 25)
- Re: RIPE our of IPv4 Dmitry Sherman (Nov 25)
- Re: RIPE our of IPv4 Mark Andrews (Nov 25)
- Re: RIPE our of IPv4 Dmitry Sherman (Nov 25)
- Re: RIPE our of IPv4 Doug Barton (Nov 25)
- Re: RIPE our of IPv4 Owen DeLong (Nov 28)
- Re: RIPE our of IPv4 Valdis Klētnieks (Nov 25)
- Re: RIPE our of IPv4 Mike Hammett (Nov 25)
- Re: RIPE our of IPv4 Doug Barton (Nov 25)
- Re: RIPE our of IPv4 Brandon Martin (Nov 25)
- Re: RIPE our of IPv4 Doug Barton (Nov 25)
- Re: RIPE our of IPv4 bzs (Nov 26)
- Re: RIPE our of IPv4 Matt Palmer (Nov 26)
- Re: RIPE our of IPv4 Matthew Kaufman (Nov 30)
- Re: RIPE our of IPv4 Sabri Berisha (Nov 26)
- Re: RIPE our of IPv4 Ca By (Nov 26)
- Re: RIPE our of IPv4 Brian Knight (Nov 27)
- Re: RIPE our of IPv4 Brandon Butterworth (Nov 27)
- Re: RIPE our of IPv4 Brian Knight (Nov 27)