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Re: Crowdfunding critical infrastructure


From: Tom Beecher <beecher () beecher cc>
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2019 12:32:26 -0400


Encouraging folks to contribute to specific individuals directly may be a
little more difficult though, compared to, say, getting a legitimate
organization going that provides (likely objectively-determined
merit-based) payouts to the sort of folks you're talking about.


Adding an organization in front of that whose sole reason for existence is
to decide who gets what % of the money doesn't make a lot of sense, mostly
because it is just creating another layer of people who are then going to
feel entitled to be compensated for taking the time to decide who should be
compensated.

Maintaining a list of individuals who freely maintain important software,
with links so people can choose to donate a few bucks if they like seems
perfectly fine.

On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 11:59 AM Matt Harris <matt () netfire net> wrote:

On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 10:41 AM Eric S. Raymond <esr () thyrsus com> wrote:

The members of this list are, I think, much more aware tham most that
a lot of critical Internet software is maintained by unfunded
volunteers, and of the systemic risks that result from this.

I'm attacking the problem at the root, applying what the Internet has
taught us about decentralization and avoidiing single poimts of
failure. In part because I'm currently struggling with medical bills
(nothing life-threatening, just ankle surgery) but I've been worrying
about the larger problem for a decade.

Please read http://loadsharers.net

Of course I would like everyone on here to take the pledge and spread
the word in technical communities where they have influence. But
beyond that, there are several members of this list who are clearly
qualified to join as advisers. We're going to need that as the
Loadsharers network scales up.


Interesting concept, and seems like a good idea. What's the end goal look
like? Encouraging folks to contribute to specific individuals directly may
be a little more difficult though, compared to, say, getting a legitimate
organization going that provides (likely objectively-determined
merit-based) payouts to the sort of folks you're talking about. Is that on
the table, or is the goal more to just encourage direct payments from one
individual to others?

I think many of us assume that doing the sort of work you're referring to
will definitely result in the regular receipt of many prestigious,
high-paying job offers. If that's not the case, maybe something else we can
do is to help find full-time employment/funding for folks who contribute
and need it.

Hope your ankle's feeling better soon!



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