Re: Traffic ratio of an ISP

[Josh Luthman <josh () imaginenetworksllc com>]

> my question was more like to understand when an ISP decides to claim
itself as any of these (Heavy Outbound/ Inbound or Balanced)

Maybe I'm missing something but it's as simple as looking at the interface
graphs.  We see a whole lot of green for inbound and a little little blue
line for outbound.  We are an ISP with residential and commercial customers.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
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On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 4:20 PM Prasun Dey <prasun () nevada unr edu> wrote:

> Hi Martijn and Josh,
> Thank you for your detailed explanation. Let me explain my requirement so
> that you may help me better.
> According to PeeringDB, Charter (Access), Sprint (Transit), Amazon
> (Content) all three of them are ‘Balanced’. While, Cable One, an Access ISP
> says it is Heavy Inbound, while Akamai, Netflix (Content) are Heavy
> Outbound. On the other hand, Cox, another access ISP, it says that it is
> Mostly Inbound.
> So, my question was more like to understand when an ISP decides to claim
> itself as any of these (Heavy Outbound/ Inbound or Balanced)? From an ISP’s
> own point of view, at what point, it says, my outbound:inbound is
> something, so I’m Heavy Outbound.
> Please ignore my lack of knowledge in this area. I’m sorry I should’ve
> done a better job in formulating my question earlier.
> Thank you.
>
> -
> Prasun
>
> Regards,
> Prasun Kanti Dey
> Ph.D. Candidate,
> Dept of Electrical and Computer Engineering,
> University of Central Florida
> web: https://prasunkantidey.github.io/portfolio/
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jun 19, 2019, at 2:13 PM, i3D.net - Martijn Schmidt <
> martijnschmidt () i3d net> wrote:
>
> It kinda depends on the application that's being used. For example,
> videogaming has a ratio somewhere around 1:2.5 since you're only
> transmitting metadata about the players environment across the wire. The
> actual video is typically rendered at the end user's side. So it's not very
> bandwidth heavy.
>
> Compare that with a videostream (watching a movie or TV series) and you're
> pumping the rendered video across the wire, so there's a very different
> ratio. Your return path traffic would pretty much consist of control stuff
> only (like pushing the pause button).
>
> Some networks are dedicated to serving one type of content, whereas others
> might have a blend of different kinds of content. Same story for an access
> network geared to business users which want to use emails and such, vs
> residential end users looking for the evening's entertainment.
>
> Best regards,
> Martijn
>
> On 19 June 2019 19:54:45 CEST, Josh Luthman <josh () imaginenetworksllc com>
> wrote:
> > If you're asking an ISP, consumers will always be inbound.  It's the end
> > user.  The outbound would be where the information is coming from, like
> > data centers.
> >
> > I'm not sure you're going to get any better answer without a more
> > specific question.
> >
> > Josh Luthman
> > Office: 937-552-2340
> > Direct: 937-552-2343
> > 1100 Wayne St
> > Suite 1337
> > Troy, OH 45373
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 12:50 PM Prasun Dey <prasun () nevada unr edu>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hello,
> > > Good morning.
> > > I’m a Ph.D. candidate from University of Central Florida. I have a
> > > query, I hope you can help me with it or at least point me to the right
> > > direction.
> > > I’ve seen from PeeringDB that every ISP reveals its traffic ratio as
> > > Heavy/ Mostly Inbound or Balanced or Heavy/ Mostly Outbound.
> > > I’m wondering if there is any specific ratio numbers for them. In
> > > Norton’s Internet Peering Playbook or some other literary work, they
> > > mention the outbound:inbound traffic ratio as 1:1.2 to up to 1:3 for
> > > Balanced. But, I couldn’t find the other values.
> > > I’d really appreciate your help if you can please mention what
> > > Outbound:Inbound ratios that network admins use frequently to represent
> > > their traffic ratios for
> > > 1. Heavy Inbound:
> > > 2. Mostly Inbound:
> > > 3. Mostly Outbound:
> > > 4. Heavy Outbound:
> > >
> > > Thank you.
> > > -
> > > Prasun
> > > --
> > > Sincerely,
> > > Prasun Kanti Dey,
> > > Ph.D. candidate,
> > > Dept. of Electrical and Computer Engineering,
> > > University of Central Florida.
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