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Re: DNS Flag Day, Friday, Feb 1st, 2019


From: Mark Andrews <marka () isc org>
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2019 13:07:58 +1100

This basically affects sites using really old Windows DNS servers (Microsoft decided to make them only respond once 
with FORMERR so if that message is lost they appear to be dead until the timer clears) and those using firewalls that 
block EDNS queries.  If you use such firewalls they are really doing nothing useful. 

Most of the other errors reported are benign as far as DNS flag day is concerned. 

Also apart from the public DNS resolvers people need to install updated software that has the work arounds removed.

Mark
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Mark Andrews

On 31 Jan 2019, at 12:22, Matthew Petach <mpetach () netflight com> wrote:



On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 4:12 PM Brian Kantor <Brian () ampr org> wrote:
Quoting from the web site at https://dnsflagday.net/
[...] 
  The current DNS is unnecessarily slow and suffers from inability      
  to deploy new features. To remediate these problems, vendors of
  DNS software and also big public DNS providers are going to
  remove certain workarounds on February 1st, 2019.


I would like to note that there is an entire 
segment of the population that does not 
interact with technology between sundown 
on Friday, all the way through Sunday 
morning.

Choosing Friday as a day to carry out an 
operational change of this sort does not 
seem to have given thought that if things 
break, there is a possibility they will have 
to stay broken for at least a full day before 
the right people can be engaged to work on 
the issue. 

In the future, can we try to schedule such events 
with more consideration on which day the change 
will take place?

I will also note that this weekend is the Superbowl 
in the US; one of the bigger advertising events of the 
year.  Potentially breaking advertising systems that 
rely on DNS two days before a major, once-a-year 
advertising event is *also* somewhat inconsiderate. 

While I understand that no day will work for everyone, 
and at some point you just have to pick a day and go 
for it, I will note that picking the Friday before the 
Superbowl does seem like a very unfortunate random 
pick for a day on which to do it. 

Any chance this could wait until say the Tuesday 
*after* the Superbowl, when we aren't cutting an 
entire religion's worth of potential workers out of 
the workforce available to fix issues in case it 
turns out to be a bigger problem than is expected, 
and when we have less chance of annoying the 
vast army of football-loving fans of every sort? 

Thanks!

Matt


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