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Re: Corporate Identity Theft: Azuki, LLC -- AS13389, 216.179.128.0/17


From: "Ronald F. Guilmette" <rfg () tristatelogic com>
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2019 20:45:53 -0700

In message <20190810003820.GD2592 () jima tpb net>, 
Niels Bakker <niels=nanog () bakker net> wrote:

* rfg () tristatelogic com (Ronald F. Guilmette) [Sat 10 Aug 2019, 02:26 CEST]:
As far as I am aware, no RIR makes any effort whatsoever to vet 
changes to WHOIS records, either for IP blocks or ASNs or ORG 
records.

This is hilarious.  You should hear the whining from any EU-based 
operator who has to implement the transfer of RIPE NCC resources in 
a corporate acquisition.

I recently was involved with one of those and the amount of due 
diligence required by the RIPE NCC was pretty intense.  If I were at 
an RIR I'd be insulted by your claim of "no... effort whatsoever".

I do not and would not dispute that at least a few RIRs... in particular
ARIN and RIPE... are -very- good and -very- diligent these days in their
vetting of the legitimacy of what the RIRs themselves, and on their
(secret) -internal- books list as "registrants" of number resources.

But what is listed on the internal books of any given RIR is -not- what
appears in the WHOIS records.  It's just that simple.  Your RIR may
have given you a full rectal exam prior to giving you your IP addresses.
But how does that help -me- if you're sending me bad packets and your
WHOIS records says the following?

        Registrant:    Salvador Dali
        Address:       12345 Moon St., The Universe, 999999999
        Phone:         <<Lindsey Graham's cell phone number>>

Regards,
rfg


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