Re: What can ISPs do better? Removing racism out of internet

[Mel Beckman <mel () beckman org>]

Eric,

Not really. The customer provides the content on its own servers. The CDN simply redistributes the content via 
temporary caching. It’s not a web hosting provider. The CDN _customer_ hosts the content.

 -mel beckman

On Aug 5, 2019, at 11:09 PM, Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuhnke () gmail com<mailto:eric.kuhnke () gmail com>> wrote:

A CDN is a hosting company. It is the logical continuation and evolution of what an httpd hosting/server colo company 
was twenty years ago, but with more geographical scale and a great deal more automation tools.

I have never in my life seen a medium to large-sized hosting company that didn't have a ToS reserving the right to 
discontinue service at any time for arbitrary reasons.


On Mon, Aug 5, 2019 at 7:28 PM Mel Beckman <mel () beckman org<mailto:mel () beckman org>> wrote:
Valdis,

A CDN is very much an ISP. It is providing transport for its customers from arbitrary Internet destinations, to the 
customer’s content. The caching done by a CDN is incidental to this transport, in accordance with the DMCA.

The alternative is that you believe CDNs are not protected by safe Harbor. Is that the case?

-mel via cell

> On Aug 5, 2019, at 4:02 PM, Valdis Klētnieks <valdis.kletnieks () vt edu<mailto:valdis.kletnieks () vt edu>> wrote:
>
> On Mon, 05 Aug 2019 20:40:43 -0000, Mel Beckman said:
> > The key misunderstanding on your part is the phrase “on your servers”. ISPs
> > acting as conduits do not, by definition (in the DMCA), store anything on
> > servers.
>
> Note that ISPs whose business is 100% "acting as conduits" are in the minority.
>
> Hint:  The DMCA has the text about data stored on ISP servers because many ISPs
> aren't mere conduits.  And this thread got started regarding a CDN, which is very much
> all about storing data on servers.....