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Re: What can ISPs do better? Removing racism out of internet
From: Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuhnke () gmail com>
Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2019 23:08:54 -0700
A CDN is a hosting company. It is the logical continuation and evolution of what an httpd hosting/server colo company was twenty years ago, but with more geographical scale and a great deal more automation tools. I have never in my life seen a medium to large-sized hosting company that didn't have a ToS reserving the right to discontinue service at any time for arbitrary reasons. On Mon, Aug 5, 2019 at 7:28 PM Mel Beckman <mel () beckman org> wrote:
Valdis, A CDN is very much an ISP. It is providing transport for its customers from arbitrary Internet destinations, to the customer’s content. The caching done by a CDN is incidental to this transport, in accordance with the DMCA. The alternative is that you believe CDNs are not protected by safe Harbor. Is that the case? -mel via cellOn Aug 5, 2019, at 4:02 PM, Valdis Klētnieks <valdis.kletnieks () vt edu>wrote:On Mon, 05 Aug 2019 20:40:43 -0000, Mel Beckman said:The key misunderstanding on your part is the phrase “on your servers”.ISPsacting as conduits do not, by definition (in the DMCA), store anythingonservers.Note that ISPs whose business is 100% "acting as conduits" are in theminority.Hint: The DMCA has the text about data stored on ISP servers becausemany ISPsaren't mere conduits. And this thread got started regarding a CDN,which is very muchall about storing data on servers.....
Current thread:
- Re: What can ISPs do better? Removing racism out of internet, (continued)
- Re: What can ISPs do better? Removing racism out of internet Patrick W. Gilmore (Aug 05)
- Re: What can ISPs do better? Removing racism out of internet Mel Beckman (Aug 05)
- Re: What can ISPs do better? Removing racism out of internet Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. (Aug 05)
- Re: What can ISPs do better? Removing racism out of internet Mel Beckman (Aug 05)
- Re: What can ISPs do better? Removing racism out of internet Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. (Aug 05)
- Re: What can ISPs do better? Removing racism out of internet Valdis Klētnieks (Aug 05)
- Re: What can ISPs do better? Removing racism out of internet Mel Beckman (Aug 05)
- Re: What can ISPs do better? Removing racism out of internet Valdis Klētnieks (Aug 05)
- Re: What can ISPs do better? Removing racism out of internet Mel Beckman (Aug 05)
- Re: What can ISPs do better? Removing racism out of internet Valdis Klētnieks (Aug 05)
- Re: What can ISPs do better? Removing racism out of internet Eric Kuhnke (Aug 05)
- Re: What can ISPs do better? Removing racism out of internet Mel Beckman (Aug 05)
- Re: What can ISPs do better? Removing racism out of internet Valdis Klētnieks (Aug 05)
- Re: What can ISPs do better? Removing racism out of internet Mel Beckman (Aug 05)
- Re: What can ISPs do better? Removing racism out of internet Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. (Aug 06)
- Re: What can ISPs do better? Removing racism out of internet Mel Beckman (Aug 06)
- Re: the CLOUD Act (was What can ISPs do better? Removing racism out of internet) Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. (Aug 06)
- RE: the CLOUD Act (was What can ISPs do better? Removing racism out of internet) Keith Medcalf (Aug 06)
- Re: the CLOUD Act (was What can ISPs do better? Removing racism out of internet) Valdis Klētnieks (Aug 06)
- RE: the CLOUD Act (was What can ISPs do better? Removing racism out of internet) Keith Medcalf (Aug 06)
- Re: the CLOUD Act (was What can ISPs do better? Removing racism out of internet) Mel Beckman (Aug 06)