RE: Impacts of Encryption Everywhere (any solution?)

["McBride, Mack" <C-Mack.McBride () charter com>]

In high density urban areas last mile infrastructure (mostly copper) is considerably better than 4G. 
Localized carrier powered wifi is good as well but it is not and should not be confused with 4G.

Mack

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From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces () nanog org] On Behalf Of Ben Cannon
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2018 1:54 AM
To: Mark Tinka <mark.tinka () seacom mu>
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Subject: Re: Impacts of Encryption Everywhere (any solution?)

Thank you Mark for your excellent firsthand account.

I’ve observed this - the developing world (better? Same meaning but hey) does not miss copper infrastructure.  That was 
always bad and was always going to be bad now that 4G is here. There’s just zero reason now.   It’s an anchor.

-Ben

> On May 29, 2018, at 10:19 PM, Mark Tinka <mark.tinka () seacom mu> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On 29/May/18 20:01, Eric Kuhnke wrote:
> >
> > The one thing that you CAN generalize about a great many developing 
> > nation telecom markets, which is different than the US and Western Europe:
> >
> > Many urban locations have a complete absence of functioning last 
> > mile, legacy copper telecom infrastructure, which in a US city you 
> > would see used for ADSL2+ or VDSL2 or g.fast on old POTS phone lines, 
> > or
> > DOCSIS3.0/DOCSIS3.1 on 75 ohm coaxial cable TV plant. Leaving "4G" 
> > and various forms of fixed point to multipoint wireless, whether LTE 
> > based or not, as the only viable residential and SMB broadband service option.
>
> And this is a bad thing, because?
>
> Just because it is done differently doesn't mean it is any less 
> effective. Mobile phones have significantly overtaken all other forms 
> of physical infrastructure in most of Africa, and the amount of data 
> being generated as well as the growing rate of penetration is some of 
> the highest in the world.
>
> MNO's have taken slightly different approaches to how they build and 
> scale for Africa (and other developing continents such as Asia) than 
> they have for other regions of the world where physical infrastructure 
> is more rife.
>
> Personally, I'm glad that the remaining bits of copper plant in Africa 
> are losing steam as folk jump straight into 3G/4G and fibre in Africa.
> Coax was never really a hit in Africa (I know it was in Mozambique), 
> but glad we don't have to deal with that legacy either.
>
> I am fortunate enough to live in a city where 4G/LTE is available, 
> with a reasonably-priced 100Mbps FTTH service to my house, as do many 
> others that live in major African cities where private companies are 
> not sitting around waiting for the gubbermint to catch up. Is there a 
> lot more that can and should be done? For sure! But things are happening...
>
> Mark.
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