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Re: Impacts of Encryption Everywhere (any solution?)


From: Mike Hammett <nanog () ics-il net>
Date: Tue, 29 May 2018 16:53:50 -0500 (CDT)

"And these pockets of extreme isolation sound like a prime opportunity for a WISP or other disruption. " 

Which is what the OP of the thread I was looking at was doing, starting a WISP. They could get a 100 - 200 megabit/s 
per AP access network, but their link to the outside world is currently limited to one meg. For some reason mountain to 
mountain links weren't a viable option. I don't know the reason why. 

I was looking for ways of him getting the most bang for the buck out of the connection. I've got a couple ideas (Steam 
Cache, Squid in "bump in the middle" configuration, and a squid - squid tunnel with the low speed link in the middle). 




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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 

----- Original Message -----

From: "Ben Cannon" <ben () 6by7 net> 
To: "John R. Levine" <johnl () iecc com> 
Cc: "NANOG" <nanog () nanog org> 
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2018 2:49:14 PM 
Subject: Re: Impacts of Encryption Everywhere (any solution?) 

Everyone in Haiti had a cell phone. Everyone. Even the poorest of the poor. They skipped the enormous expense of copper 
infrastructure. 

The world is very different in person. 

And these pockets of extreme isolation sound like a prime opportunity for a WISP or other disruption. 

-Ben 

On May 29, 2018, at 7:16 AM, John R. Levine <johnl () iecc com> wrote: 

I am sure these third world nations have more important things to spend 
their money on rather than data plans and data devices. Things like food 
and medicine come to mind... 

My goodness, aren't we condescending. Since we're talking about Kenya here, a few milliseconds of research reminds us 
that it's a significant agricultural exporter. Agricultural development there is generally about better use of 
existing land. 

You might also want to learn about M-Pesa, the mobile phone payment system that everybody uses. Stores all have a 
sign with their M-Pesa number so you can pay them, and there are kiosks all over Nairobi that will exchange M-Pesa 
credit and cash. The 1GB data bundles I mentioned are large ones. You can get 7MB for a day or 5MB for a week for 5c, 
which is plenty to check your messages or look up farm prices. 

People in Africa may be poorer than we are, but they are just as smart as we are, and they are just as able and 
interested in technology when it is useful to them. 

R's, 
John 


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