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Re: Impacts of Encryption Everywhere (any solution?)


From: Owen DeLong <owen () delong com>
Date: Tue, 29 May 2018 11:00:22 -0700

It was a convenient example with which I had experience near Eritrea.

My statement would apply equally for say, Zambia or Morocco.

Owen


On May 29, 2018, at 10:58 , Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuhnke () gmail com> wrote:

Ethiopia is significantly different and unique, in its own unusual way, because of the government monopoly telecom. 
Other people can correct me if I'm wrong, but unless the situation has changed in the past two years, all small to 
medium sized ISPs in Ethiopia are mandated by law to be downstream of the government run telecom ASN. Also the 
government owned national telecom has a monopoly on all international fiber connections to neighboring countries (at 
OSI layer 1), and for things like STM/SDH or 1/10/ Gbps Ethernet L2 transport services to any location outside of 
Ethiopia.

The Ethiopian Internet is also subject to significant censorship and attempted blockage of VPN and VoIP services.

https://www.google.com/search?q=ethiopia+internet+censorship&oq=ethiopia+internet+censorship&aqs=chrome.0.0j69i57.2857j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
 
<https://www.google.com/search?q=ethiopia+internet+censorship&oq=ethiopia+internet+censorship&aqs=chrome.0.0j69i57.2857j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8>





On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 10:21 AM, Owen DeLong <owen () delong com <mailto:owen () delong com>> wrote:

The Internet in Indonesia is the very same Internet in Eritrea, as it is
in Canada. We can't quite split that…

I admit that I haven’t been to Eritrea or Indonesia, but using Ethiopia
and Malaysia as stand-ins (which I have been to), I can say that while they
are the same internet, the level of development, the payment systems which
are usable via said internet, and other aspects of the daily use and capabilities
which can be utilized on the internet in those countries does vary greatly.

For example, Apple Pay is somewhat ubiquitous in Canada. It’s virtually unheard
of in Ethiopia. My travels to Malaysia were not recent enough for me to comment
accurately on the current state of things.

M-Pesa is widely accepted in Kenya, but not at all in the US or Canada.

PayPal is popular in the US, but not so much in most of the rest of the world.

YMMV.

IPv6 is readily available on almost every mobile phone in the US. Less so in
Kenya or Tanzania, Eritrea, Canada, or Indonesia.

While all connected networks are part of the same big I Internet, not all networks
are created or maintained equal and not all services on those networks are
ubiquitously available to all users of the big I Internet.

Owen




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