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Re: Whois vs GDPR, latest news


From: Owen DeLong <owen () delong com>
Date: Wed, 23 May 2018 16:53:39 -0700

How is it false?

If you don’t do business in the EU or with EU persons, then you are not included in the class of organizations which 
GDPR says are subject to GDPR.

Owen


On May 23, 2018, at 4:36 PM, K. Scott Helms <kscott.helms () gmail com> wrote:

Owen,

That's false, please don't spread misinformation.  

Scott Helms

On Wed, May 23, 2018, 7:34 PM Owen DeLong <owen () delong com <mailto:owen () delong com>> wrote:


On May 23, 2018, at 9:29 AM, Anne P. Mitchell Esq. <amitchell () isipp com <mailto:amitchell () isipp com>> wrote:



On May 23, 2018, at 10:21 AM, Daniel Brisson <dbrisson () uvm edu <mailto:dbrisson () uvm edu>> wrote:

Also, don't forget the private right of action.  Anyone can file anything in the U.S. courts... you  may get it 
dismissed (although then again you may not) but either way, it's going to be time and money out of your pocket 
fighting it.  MUCH better to just get compliant than to end up a test case.

Isn't "better" a factor of how much it costs to become compliant with GPDR?  I'm no expert, but some of the things 
I've heard sounded not trivial to implement (read potentially BIG investment).

-dan

In our experience, orgs that are already following all industry best practices are, generally, at least 70% of the 
way to becoming compliant already.   Where it can get expensive for the ones who aren't is in hardening their 
systems to provide for better security/privacy.  U.S. companies are used to being able to drink at the firehose of 
data that is collected here in the U.S., and use it however they want.. this is the real major change.  I suppose 
you could say it's expensive in that it is reducing the ways they can monetize that data. 

Of course a perfectly valid alternative is to refuse to do business with EU persons. Then GDPR compliance becomes 
entirely unnecessary.

Owen


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