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Re: How are you configuring BFD timers?
From: Saku Ytti <saku () ytti fi>
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2018 12:22:39 +0200
RFI is corollary to LOS. Both are essentially speed of light limited, there in no uncertainty or detection margin. After one side sees LOS other side will see RFI, if it's not seeing LOS as well. I personally would consider BFD for: radio, pseudowire, L2 switch and equivalent poorly failing links. But I wouldn't run it on dark, copper or wave. Purely an anecdote, but I have far more BFD caused problems than BFD solved problems, spanning multiple vendors. (CAT7600, ASR9k, MX). Regarding BFD echo and control mode, neither is guaranteed to be HW or SW implementation, both can be both. Standard intends echo mode to be HW, but does not guarantee. On 22 March 2018 at 12:10, James Bensley <jwbensley () gmail com> wrote:
On 22 March 2018 at 09:59, Saku Ytti <saku () ytti fi> wrote:Ethernet handles unidirectional failure natively through autonego asserting RFI.I was thinking about this as I wrote that post. I've not had a chance to test this across our various devices types, I will have to try and find the time to test which devices support this and how effectively it works. For now we just use BFD because it's tested as working on all our device types. We've seen issues where LOS isn't working properly across third party DWDM platforms so for now, we have no BFD bugs and it catches these issues for us. I think it might also be worth testing Ethernet RFI to check the delays that Jason was talking about; which is quicker to signal link down and begin the re-convergence process, RFI / LOS / BFD? Cheers, James.
-- ++ytti
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- Re: How are you configuring BFD timers? Bryan Holloway (Mar 21)
- Re: How are you configuring BFD timers? Jason Lixfeld (Mar 21)
- Re: How are you configuring BFD timers? Youssef Bengelloun-Zahr (Mar 21)
- Re: How are you configuring BFD timers? Jason Lixfeld (Mar 21)
- RE: How are you configuring BFD timers? Luke Guillory (Mar 21)
- RE: How are you configuring BFD timers? Alex Lembesis (Mar 21)
- Re: How are you configuring BFD timers? Ken Matlock (Mar 21)
- Re: How are you configuring BFD timers? James Bensley (Mar 22)
- Re: How are you configuring BFD timers? Saku Ytti (Mar 22)
- Re: How are you configuring BFD timers? James Bensley (Mar 22)
- Re: How are you configuring BFD timers? Saku Ytti (Mar 22)
- Re: How are you configuring BFD timers? Saku Ytti (Mar 22)
- Re: How are you configuring BFD timers? Thomas Bellman (Mar 21)
- Re: How are you configuring BFD timers? Måns Nilsson (Mar 22)
- Re: How are you configuring BFD timers? Saku Ytti (Mar 22)
- Re: How are you configuring BFD timers? Måns Nilsson (Mar 22)
- Re: How are you configuring BFD timers? Arie Vayner (Mar 28)