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Re: Proving Gig Speed
From: Mike Hammett <nanog () ics-il net>
Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2018 10:47:45 -0500 (CDT)
We already supply far, far greater than the actual consumer usage (versus want or demand). Consumers are moving away from wired connections in the home for wireless connections (for obvious mobility and ease of setup where there isn't existing wired infrastructure). Consumers are moving away from power desktops and laptops to phones, tablets, and purpose-built appliances. My in-laws have a Comcast service that's >100 megabit/s. The 2.4 and 5 GHz noise floors are so high (-50 to -75 dB, depending on channel and location within the house) that unless you're in the same room, you're not getting more than 10 megabit/s on wireless. On a wire, Comcast delivers full data rate. Speed tests from wire to wireless mirror the wireless to Internet performance. If it can't be delivered within the home, delivering it to the home is pointless. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Saku Ytti" <saku () ytti fi> To: "Mike Hammett" <nanog () ics-il net> Cc: "Mark Tinka" <mark.tinka () seacom mu>, nanog () nanog org Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 10:38:52 AM Subject: Re: Proving Gig Speed On Tue, 17 Jul 2018 at 17:45, Mike Hammett <nanog () ics-il net> wrote:
10G to the home will be pointless as more and more people move away from Ethernet to WiFi where the noise floor for most installs prevents anyone from reaching 802.11n speeds, much less whatever alphabet soup comes later.
I admire your confidence, when historically we've had poor success in these type of predictions. I seriously doubt we're now living in special time in history where we find the limit of consumer bandwidth demand, while I have no idea what would drive it or how it would be implemented, I'm betting against myself having all the information about future. -- ++ytti
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- Re: Proving Gig Speed, (continued)
- Re: Proving Gig Speed James R Cutler (Jul 16)
- Re: Proving Gig Speed Mark Tinka (Jul 17)
- Re: Proving Gig Speed K. Scott Helms (Jul 17)
- Re: Proving Gig Speed Mark Tinka (Jul 17)
- Re: Proving Gig Speed Mike Hammett (Jul 17)
- Re: Proving Gig Speed Brant Ian Stevens (Jul 17)
- Re: Proving Gig Speed Mike Hammett (Jul 17)
- Re: Proving Gig Speed Andy Ringsmuth (Jul 17)
- Re: Proving Gig Speed Saku Ytti (Jul 17)
- Re: Proving Gig Speed Mark Tinka (Jul 17)
- Re: Proving Gig Speed Mike Hammett (Jul 17)
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- Re: Proving Gig Speed James Bensley (Jul 17)
- Re: Proving Gig Speed Brielle Bruns (Jul 18)
- Re: Proving Gig Speed Mark Tinka (Jul 18)
- Re: Proving Gig Speed Michael Thomas (Jul 17)
- Re: Proving Gig Speed Alan Buxey (Jul 17)
- Re: Proving Gig Speed Saku Ytti (Jul 17)
- Re: Proving Gig Speed Mark Tinka (Jul 18)
- Re: Proving Gig Speed Mark Tinka (Jul 17)
- Re: Proving Gig Speed Andy Ringsmuth (Jul 17)